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"At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them." (Jeremiah 18:7-10)

"The Lord saith thus; Behold, that which I have built will I break down, and that which I have planted I will pluck up, even this whole land." (Jeremiah 45:4)

A nation once doing good, having turned from that good, and now doing evil, shall be brought down. Yahweh the LORD shall repent of the good He said He would benefit them. Here is is not specifying Israel directly, for He says "a nation" - that is "al goi" or "on nation," as also Psalm 9:17, "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget God" That's "Kol goyim" or all nations.

How America has delayed her repentance, when she has been called over and over to repentance by a remnant of believers who have thundered with the voice of the prophets to repent, and she has not! Instead, America has bonded with pure evil in many forms, that society is saturated with this evil, and it is taken for granted as normal. Heavy rock music that would have been considered shock music 60 years ago is now normal. Pournagraffie that was forbidden from TV even 30 years ago is now considered normal. The occult is everywhere. Sex is everywhere. Shall not the LORD of Hosts visit for this? He will surely visit, and he who thinks not shall be in for a big surprize: yea, a rude awakening!

Hear this word, and do not dismiss it as not relevant, for ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable, and the things of the Prophets are indeed for our admonition and are examples for us, today, and at all times, as the Apostle Paul wrote. Hear Isaiah 1:15-21,
"And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers."

Oh, how, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." (Revelation 18:2) Please don't try to argue that this Babylon is Rome, or Iraq, or the world system, or any other thing, because you know what? This Babylon is whatever fulfills the description given, and can be multiple things, of which the USA certainly does. Doesn't mean it's the ONLY thing, as I believe it does also involve Europe, and Rome, though not really Iraq. That Babylon was not to be rebuilt according to the scriptures.

America has left her first love of the Gospel and of the Truth. Whoever said "America is great because America is good. If America ever stops being good, it will stop being great," is right, whether or not Alexis de Tocqueville said it or wrote it. The opening text confirms it.
The Revivals and awakenings of past centuries involved weeping in contrition, sorrowing and mourning over their sins, and such outward manifestations as the closing of liquor establishments, houses of gambling, and houses of prostitution. Such just doesn't happen today. A "Revival" seems to be a bunch of dancing in a church to contemporary worship music. Where is the fruit?

Revelation 2:5, "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
The candlestick is the church (Rev. 1:20), or rather, a particular church: in this case Ephesus who had left her first love. The Zeale was quenched, and beware when ones Zeale is quenched and the coales of that Zeale wax cold: That such a church become not dead as Sardis (Rev. 3:1) And, beware and be warned, Christ would come upon thee as a thief, and you not know what hour He cometh (Rev. 3:3)

1 Thessalonians 1:7-10, "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe"

O that you be of those who believe: that TRULY believe unto righteousness, with thine heart, for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness. Don't leave out the righteousness part as many do. Consider these words from Thomas Boston (1676-1732):

"You know not the weight of the wrath of God. It is true none can have a full comprehension of it: “Who knoweth the power of thine anger?” (Psa 90:11). But all the elect of God get such a notion of it as rouses them up to fly from it; “knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men” (2Co 5:11). And if you had tolerable apprehensions of it, it would break off your sleep and slumber, and cause you to put forth your hands to work. Did you [but] consider what “a fearful thing [it is] to fall into the hands of the living God” (Heb 10:31), and how when you fall down again into your bed of sloth, you are truly in hazard of it—it would give you such a gliff as would keep you waking.
There are three things you do not observe.

First, you do not observe what speed your ruin is making while you lie at ease; how your “judgment…lingereth not,” and thy “damnation slumbereth not” (2Pe 2:3). The avenger of blood is pursuing you, though you are not fleeing from the wrath to come. You are like a man sleeping in a leaky ship, which is drawing water every moment, and within a little it will be full and sink to the bottom of the sea if he does not awake and help it. Every hour your debt is growing: the cup of wrath is filling, and fills so much the faster as you are secure.

Secondly, you do not observe how near your destruction may be. You are like the old world, who “were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away” (Mat 24:38-39). Your spiritual lethargy and dead sleep hinders you from hearing the sound of the feet of the approaching stroke. You lie open to the most terrible surprise, to sleep the sleep of death, which you may never awake out of till in hell (Luke 12:19-20; 16:23)! And O, how sad is it for men to be past hope ere they begin to fear, to have the house falling ere they get over their bed!

The time of God’s grace is limited; a time wherein He will be found, and when not. “Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near” (Isa 55:6). Death certainly puts a period to it; but it seems to be clear that men may out-live their day of grace: “I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper”
(Luk 14:24)"
From, Danger of Delaying Repentance pgs 14,15 & 22.

Oh, Despise not prophesyings! (1 Thessalonians 5:19) The day is coming, and it will come, when the nation is utterly thrown down as God "turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly" (2 Peter 2:6) I cannot stress enough as the Holy Spirit is moving, and calling, but is also grieved at the condition of this once great nation, how the wrath of God: yea, the fierceness of His mighty wrath is so hanging over this nation presently, and over churches who call evil good and good evil, Woe unto them! (Isaiah 5:20) saying God condones abomination and the accursed things.

America shall fall before her enemies because she has taken of the accursed thing: "There is an accursed thing in the midst of thee, O Israel: thou canst not stand before thine enemies, until ye take away the accursed thing from among you." (Joshua 7:13) All neatly packaged with a rainbow, mocking God's holy covenant with Noah; for Ham was looking upon his own fathers nakedness, hence Canaan was cursed (Genesis 9:22-25) For there was an unlawful deed done, yet churches are affirming men becoming one flesh with other men, which is abomination and accursed, from Leviticus, to Romans 1, to Corinthians: accursed!

Such things shall bring the fiery judgment of Sodom down upon a nation, and America promotes it and declares her sin as Sodom! Isaiah 3:9, "The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves." Oh, this is a scathing message, because the wrath of the LORD burns hot against sin, and it's only his withholding hand that keeps America from flaming doom and destruction as the cities of old that perished by fire: but IT WILL COME!

Oh, do not look at America's military might, or the edge in technology she hold.

"O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness....
The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.
Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD."

It's the Biblical principle of a Sovereign God dealing with the sin of a nation: a nation that knew God once, even as Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon did, or at least the leadership did, and made a decree not to speak against the God of the Hebrews: (Daniel 5:18-28 & 4:34-37) But Belshazzar committed vile sin by drinking out of the temple vessels, partying, getting drunk, and mocking God, just as they do in America today. Singin' Country songs about whiskey and God in the same line as if they're somehow compatible? MENE MENE TEKEL!

"MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting." (Daniel 5:26-27) Thus the kingdom fell. and Belshazzar slain that very night (Dan. 5:30) America is weighed in the balances and found wanting. It's only the longsuffering and mercies of God that keep the dreaded wrath from falling at any moment, and that moment may come at any time, and nuclear weapons reach the continental United States in a half hour from launch.

There may be no warning for many, and little warning for some, who then scurry for their lives and cry out, but of fear, and not true salvation. Oh, let salvation come now, and repent and turn to the LORD with all your heart, for if you wait for some day, you know not when: you know not your time, and suddenly it strikes, and it's too late, and you flame into eternity without making any concessions of thy soul: for Christ must be a part of you, and you must be abiding in Him, lest ye be consumed. Amen.
 
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"At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;

If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them." (Jeremiah 18:7-10)

"The Lord saith thus; Behold, that which I have built will I break down, and that which I have planted I will pluck up, even this whole land." (Jeremiah 45:4)


A nation once doing good, having turned from that good, and now doing evil, shall be brought down. Yahweh the LORD shall repent of the good He said He would benefit them. Here is is not specifying Israel directly, for He says "a nation" - that is "al goi" or "on nation," as also Psalm 9:17, "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget God" That's "Kol goyim" or all nations.

How America has delayed her repentance, when she has been called over and over to repentance by a remnant of believers who have thundered with the voice of the prophets to repent, and she has not! Instead, America has bonded with pure evil in many forms, that society is saturated with this evil, and it is taken for granted as normal. Heavy rock music that would have been considered shock music 60 years ago is now normal. Pournagraffie that was forbidden from TV even 30 years ago is now considered normal. The occult is everywhere. Sex is everywhere. Shall not the LORD of Hosts visit for this? He will surely visit, and he who thinks not shall be in for a big surprize: yea, a rude awakening!

Hear this word, and do not dismiss it as not relevant, for ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable, and the things of the Prophets are indeed for our admonition and are examples for us, today, and at all times, as the Apostle Paul wrote. Hear Isaiah 1:15-21,
"And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers."

Oh, how, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." (Revelation 18:2) Please don't try to argue that this Babylon is Rome, or Iraq, or the world system, or any other thing, because you know what? This Babylon is whatever fulfills the description given, and can be multiple things, of which the USA certainly does. Doesn't mean it's the ONLY thing, as I believe it does also involve Europe, and Rome, though not really Iraq. That Babylon was not to be rebuilt according to the scriptures.

America has left her first love of the Gospel and of the Truth. Whoever said "America is great because America is good. If America ever stops being good, it will stop being great," is right, whether or not Alexis de Tocqueville said it or wrote it. The opening text confirms it.
The Revivals and awakenings of past centuries involved weeping in contrition, sorrowing and mourning over their sins, and such outward manifestations as the closing of liquor establishments, houses of gambling, and houses of prostitution. Such just doesn't happen today. A "Revival" seems to be a bunch of dancing in a church to contemporary worship music. Where is the fruit?

Revelation 2:5, "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
The candlestick is the church (Rev. 1:20), or rather, a particular church: in this case Ephesus who had left her first love. The Zeale was quenched, and beware when ones Zeale is quenched and the coales of that Zeale wax cold: That such a church become not dead as Sardis (Rev. 3:1) And, beware and be warned, Christ would come upon thee as a thief, and you not know what hour He cometh (Rev. 3:3)

1 Thessalonians 1:7-10, "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe"

O that you be of those who believe: that TRULY believe unto righteousness, with thine heart, for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness. Don't leave out the righteousness part as many do. Consider these words from Thomas Boston (1676-1732):

"You know not the weight of the wrath of God. It is true none can have a full comprehension of it: “Who knoweth the power of thine anger?” (Psa 90:11). But all the elect of God get such a notion of it as rouses them up to fly from it; “knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men” (2Co 5:11). And if you had tolerable apprehensions of it, it would break off your sleep and slumber, and cause you to put forth your hands to work. Did you [but] consider what “a fearful thing [it is] to fall into the hands of the living God” (Heb 10:31), and how when you fall down again into your bed of sloth, you are truly in hazard of it—it would give you such a gliff as would keep you waking.
There are three things you do not observe.


First, you do not observe what speed your ruin is making while you lie at ease; how your “judgment…lingereth not,” and thy “damnation slumbereth not” (2Pe 2:3). The avenger of blood is pursuing you, though you are not fleeing from the wrath to come. You are like a man sleeping in a leaky ship, which is drawing water every moment, and within a little it will be full and sink to the bottom of the sea if he does not awake and help it. Every hour your debt is growing: the cup of wrath is filling, and fills so much the faster as you are secure.

Secondly, you do not observe how near your destruction may be. You are like the old world, who “were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away” (Mat 24:38-39). Your spiritual lethargy and dead sleep hinders you from hearing the sound of the feet of the approaching stroke. You lie open to the most terrible surprise, to sleep the sleep of death, which you may never awake out of till in hell (Luke 12:19-20; 16:23)! And O, how sad is it for men to be past hope ere they begin to fear, to have the house falling ere they get over their bed!

The time of God’s grace is limited; a time wherein He will be found, and when not. “Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near” (Isa 55:6). Death certainly puts a period to it; but it seems to be clear that men may out-live their day of grace: “I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper”
(Luk 14:24)"
From, Danger of Delaying Repentance pgs 14,15 & 22.

Oh, Despise not prophesyings! (1 Thessalonians 5:19) The day is coming, and it will come, when the nation is utterly thrown down as God "turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly" (2 Peter 2:6) I cannot stress enough as the Holy Spirit is moving, and calling, but is also grieved at the condition of this once great nation, how the wrath of God: yea, the fierceness of His mighty wrath is so hanging over this nation presently, and over churches who call evil good and good evil, Woe unto them! (Isaiah 5:20) saying God condones abomination and the accursed things.

America shall fall before her enemies because she has taken of the accursed thing: "There is an accursed thing in the midst of thee, O Israel: thou canst not stand before thine enemies, until ye take away the accursed thing from among you." (Joshua 7:13) All neatly packaged with a rainbow, mocking God's holy covenant with Noah; for Ham was looking upon his own fathers nakedness, hence Canaan was cursed (Genesis 9:22-25) For there was an unlawful deed done, yet churches are affirming men becoming one flesh with other men, which is abomination and accursed, from Leviticus, to Romans 1, to Corinthians: accursed!

Such things shall bring the fiery judgment of Sodom down upon a nation, and America promotes it and declares her sin as Sodom! Isaiah 3:9, "The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves." Oh, this is a scathing message, because the wrath of the LORD burns hot against sin, and it's only his withholding hand that keeps America from flaming doom and destruction as the cities of old that perished by fire: but IT WILL COME!

Oh, do not look at America's military might, or the edge in technology she hold.

"O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness....
The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.
Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD."

It's the Biblical principle of a Sovereign God dealing with the sin of a nation: a nation that knew God once, even as Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon did, or at least the leadership did, and made a decree not to speak against the God of the Hebrews: (Daniel 5:18-28 & 4:34-37) But Belshazzar committed vile sin by drinking out of the temple vessels, partying, getting drunk, and mocking God, just as they do in America today. Singin' Country songs about whiskey and God in the same line as if they're somehow compatible? MENE MENE TEKEL!

"MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting." (Daniel 5:26-27) Thus the kingdom fell. and Belshazzar slain that very night (Dan. 5:30) America is weighed in the balances and found wanting. It's only the longsuffering and mercies of God that keep the dreaded wrath from falling at any moment, and that moment may come at any time, and nuclear weapons reach the continental United States in a half hour from launch.

There may be no warning for many, and little warning for some, who then scurry for their lives and cry out, but of fear, and not true salvation. Oh, let salvation come now, and repent and turn to the LORD with all your heart, for if you wait for some day, you know not when: you know not your time, and suddenly it strikes, and it's too late, and you flame into eternity without making any concessions of thy soul: for Christ must be a part of you, and you must be abiding in Him, lest ye be consumed. Amen.
"Oh, how, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." (Revelation 18:2) Please don't try to argue that this Babylon is Rome, or Iraq, or the world system, or any other thing, because you know what? This Babylon is whatever fulfills the description given, and can be multiple things, of which the USA certainly does. Doesn't mean it's the ONLY thing, as I believe it does also involve Europe, and Rome, ..."

I have been wondering about this. Rev. 12 is a long chapter, and that seems to put an exclamation mark on it. The priests of the Babylonian mystery religion, which Alex Hislop in his classic book The Two Babylons regards as the source of all extant paganism, went to Pergamos when Babylon fell and which John identifies in Revelation as "the seat of Satan". Where did it go from there?

The NT archvillain Simon Magus is given an extraordinary amount of coverage in Luke's Acts, and for good reason. Magus, a Samaritan, was the head of the Babylonian Mysteries. Magus subsequently went to Rome and set up his faux Christianity on Soothsayer's Hill, the pagan center in Rome where the Vatican currently stands. So there is some ground for naming Rome (the Vatican) as "Babylon", though from it the pagan symbolism of Mystery Babylon can be seen in London, New York, Washington, Paris, and St. Peter's Square in the Vatican: the ashteroth poles condemned by the prophets as phallic symbols and which today are called obelisks.

The Washington Monument is one. A rather insightful coverage of the symbolism in govt Washington is taken up in F. Tupper Saussy's book Rulers of Evil in the chapter titled "American Graffiti". From page 223:
America’s Great Seal, with its obsessive fidelity to Caesarean Rome, cannot represent a nation more moral than the source of its ‘scripture. The icons and mysterious cabalistic language of this Seal introduce a preposterous Babylonian gospel.​
 
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"At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;

If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them." (Jeremiah 18:7-10)

"The Lord saith thus; Behold, that which I have built will I break down, and that which I have planted I will pluck up, even this whole land." (Jeremiah 45:4)


A nation once doing good, having turned from that good, and now doing evil, shall be brought down. Yahweh the LORD shall repent of the good He said He would benefit them. Here is is not specifying Israel directly, for He says "a nation" - that is "al goi" or "on nation," as also Psalm 9:17, "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget God" That's "Kol goyim" or all nations.

How America has delayed her repentance, when she has been called over and over to repentance by a remnant of believers who have thundered with the voice of the prophets to repent, and she has not! Instead, America has bonded with pure evil in many forms, that society is saturated with this evil, and it is taken for granted as normal. Heavy rock music that would have been considered shock music 60 years ago is now normal. Pournagraffie that was forbidden from TV even 30 years ago is now considered normal. The occult is everywhere. Sex is everywhere. Shall not the LORD of Hosts visit for this? He will surely visit, and he who thinks not shall be in for a big surprize: yea, a rude awakening!

Hear this word, and do not dismiss it as not relevant, for ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable, and the things of the Prophets are indeed for our admonition and are examples for us, today, and at all times, as the Apostle Paul wrote. Hear Isaiah 1:15-21,
"And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers."

Oh, how, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." (Revelation 18:2) Please don't try to argue that this Babylon is Rome, or Iraq, or the world system, or any other thing, because you know what? This Babylon is whatever fulfills the description given, and can be multiple things, of which the USA certainly does. Doesn't mean it's the ONLY thing, as I believe it does also involve Europe, and Rome, though not really Iraq. That Babylon was not to be rebuilt according to the scriptures.

America has left her first love of the Gospel and of the Truth. Whoever said "America is great because America is good. If America ever stops being good, it will stop being great," is right, whether or not Alexis de Tocqueville said it or wrote it. The opening text confirms it.
The Revivals and awakenings of past centuries involved weeping in contrition, sorrowing and mourning over their sins, and such outward manifestations as the closing of liquor establishments, houses of gambling, and houses of prostitution. Such just doesn't happen today. A "Revival" seems to be a bunch of dancing in a church to contemporary worship music. Where is the fruit?

Revelation 2:5, "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
The candlestick is the church (Rev. 1:20), or rather, a particular church: in this case Ephesus who had left her first love. The Zeale was quenched, and beware when ones Zeale is quenched and the coales of that Zeale wax cold: That such a church become not dead as Sardis (Rev. 3:1) And, beware and be warned, Christ would come upon thee as a thief, and you not know what hour He cometh (Rev. 3:3)

1 Thessalonians 1:7-10, "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe"

O that you be of those who believe: that TRULY believe unto righteousness, with thine heart, for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness. Don't leave out the righteousness part as many do. Consider these words from Thomas Boston (1676-1732):

"You know not the weight of the wrath of God. It is true none can have a full comprehension of it: “Who knoweth the power of thine anger?” (Psa 90:11). But all the elect of God get such a notion of it as rouses them up to fly from it; “knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men” (2Co 5:11). And if you had tolerable apprehensions of it, it would break off your sleep and slumber, and cause you to put forth your hands to work. Did you [but] consider what “a fearful thing [it is] to fall into the hands of the living God” (Heb 10:31), and how when you fall down again into your bed of sloth, you are truly in hazard of it—it would give you such a gliff as would keep you waking.
There are three things you do not observe.


First, you do not observe what speed your ruin is making while you lie at ease; how your “judgment…lingereth not,” and thy “damnation slumbereth not” (2Pe 2:3). The avenger of blood is pursuing you, though you are not fleeing from the wrath to come. You are like a man sleeping in a leaky ship, which is drawing water every moment, and within a little it will be full and sink to the bottom of the sea if he does not awake and help it. Every hour your debt is growing: the cup of wrath is filling, and fills so much the faster as you are secure.

Secondly, you do not observe how near your destruction may be. You are like the old world, who “were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away” (Mat 24:38-39). Your spiritual lethargy and dead sleep hinders you from hearing the sound of the feet of the approaching stroke. You lie open to the most terrible surprise, to sleep the sleep of death, which you may never awake out of till in hell (Luke 12:19-20; 16:23)! And O, how sad is it for men to be past hope ere they begin to fear, to have the house falling ere they get over their bed!

The time of God’s grace is limited; a time wherein He will be found, and when not. “Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near” (Isa 55:6). Death certainly puts a period to it; but it seems to be clear that men may out-live their day of grace: “I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper”
(Luk 14:24)"
From, Danger of Delaying Repentance pgs 14,15 & 22.

Oh, Despise not prophesyings! (1 Thessalonians 5:19) The day is coming, and it will come, when the nation is utterly thrown down as God "turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly" (2 Peter 2:6) I cannot stress enough as the Holy Spirit is moving, and calling, but is also grieved at the condition of this once great nation, how the wrath of God: yea, the fierceness of His mighty wrath is so hanging over this nation presently, and over churches who call evil good and good evil, Woe unto them! (Isaiah 5:20) saying God condones abomination and the accursed things.

America shall fall before her enemies because she has taken of the accursed thing: "There is an accursed thing in the midst of thee, O Israel: thou canst not stand before thine enemies, until ye take away the accursed thing from among you." (Joshua 7:13) All neatly packaged with a rainbow, mocking God's holy covenant with Noah; for Ham was looking upon his own fathers nakedness, hence Canaan was cursed (Genesis 9:22-25) For there was an unlawful deed done, yet churches are affirming men becoming one flesh with other men, which is abomination and accursed, from Leviticus, to Romans 1, to Corinthians: accursed!

Such things shall bring the fiery judgment of Sodom down upon a nation, and America promotes it and declares her sin as Sodom! Isaiah 3:9, "The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves." Oh, this is a scathing message, because the wrath of the LORD burns hot against sin, and it's only his withholding hand that keeps America from flaming doom and destruction as the cities of old that perished by fire: but IT WILL COME!

Oh, do not look at America's military might, or the edge in technology she hold.

"O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness....
The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.
Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD."

It's the Biblical principle of a Sovereign God dealing with the sin of a nation: a nation that knew God once, even as Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon did, or at least the leadership did, and made a decree not to speak against the God of the Hebrews: (Daniel 5:18-28 & 4:34-37) But Belshazzar committed vile sin by drinking out of the temple vessels, partying, getting drunk, and mocking God, just as they do in America today. Singin' Country songs about whiskey and God in the same line as if they're somehow compatible? MENE MENE TEKEL!

"MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting." (Daniel 5:26-27) Thus the kingdom fell. and Belshazzar slain that very night (Dan. 5:30) America is weighed in the balances and found wanting. It's only the longsuffering and mercies of God that keep the dreaded wrath from falling at any moment, and that moment may come at any time, and nuclear weapons reach the continental United States in a half hour from launch.

There may be no warning for many, and little warning for some, who then scurry for their lives and cry out, but of fear, and not true salvation. Oh, let salvation come now, and repent and turn to the LORD with all your heart, for if you wait for some day, you know not when: you know not your time, and suddenly it strikes, and it's too late, and you flame into eternity without making any concessions of thy soul: for Christ must be a part of you, and you must be abiding in Him, lest ye be consumed. Amen.
Thank you for pulling many disparate, observable prophetic elements in America into a linear narrative. I've noticed many of these things, too.

America truly has it all. I figure the only sexual sin left from the warnings in Leviticus is beastiality, which has already been around but last to rise to the fore publicly.

In another aspect, America has got to be the most gluttiness in idol worship since ancient times. Unfortunately it began almost from inception when the worship of "liberty" and "freedom" was raised above the Living God Who grants both. Look what the citizens have done with that freedom - lifted the personal motto of "Do what thou will" to Satanic heights.

I have personal doubts that America isn't too far gone already. Whether she is indeed prophetic Babylon or not, I'm convinced she won't be around one way or another (as she exists) to support Israel at the ultimate war of all nations.

Thoughts?
 
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Unfortunately it began almost from inception when the worship of "liberty" and "freedom" was raised above the Living God


Galatians 5:13
"For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another".

1 Peter 2:16-17
"Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as an excuse to do evil. Live as servants of God".

James 1:25
"But he who looks carefully into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and faithfully abides by it, he will be blessed and favored by God in what he does".

2 Corinthians 3:17
"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty".

A love of freedom and liberty comes from God Himself.
 
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Galatians 5:13
"For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another".

1 Peter 2:16-17
"Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as an excuse to do evil. Live as servants of God".

James 1:25
"But he who looks carefully into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and faithfully abides by it, he will be blessed and favored by God in what he does".

2 Corinthians 3:17
"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty".

A love of freedom and liberty comes from God Himself.
Yes, and as your Scripture testifies, everything that comes from God can be raised above God such that the exercise of it apart from Him becomes perverted and evil...

Romans 1:25 NIV

"They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."

That includes liberty and freedom - products of God's grace, which this nation has used as a license to descend into and promote the grossest of sins amongst all nations.

Even as a testimony against her, America's great symbol of idolatry stands right there on Ellis Island, greeting the huddled masses. Few realize that some historians believe the Statue of Liberty was modeled after the Roman goddess Libertas - an ancient object of worship.

I figure this is a pretty good indicator of God's opinion of her:
 

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Yes, and as your Scripture testifies, everything that comes from God can be raised above God such that the exercise of it apart from Him becomes perverted and evil...

Romans 1:25 NIV

"They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."

That includes liberty and freedom - products of God's grace, which this nation has used as a license to descend into and promote the grossest of sins amongst all nations.

Even as a testimony against her, America's great symbol of idolatry stands right there on Ellis Island, greeting the huddled masses. Few realize that some historians believe the Statue of Liberty was modeled after the Roman goddess Libertas - an ancient object of worship.

I figure this is a pretty good indicator of God's opinion of her:
Deuteronomy 8 NIV

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"When you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the Lord your God for the good land he has given you. 11 Be careful that you do not forget the Lord your God, failing to observe his commands, his laws and his decrees that I am giving you this day. 12 Otherwise, when you eat and are satisfied, when you build fine houses and settle down, 13 and when your herds and flocks grow large and your silver and gold increase and all you have is multiplied, 14 then your heart will become proud and you will forget the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."

19-20

"If you ever forget the Lord your God and follow other gods and worship and bow down to them, I testify against you today that you will surely be destroyed. 20 Like the nations the Lord destroyed before you, so you will be destroyed for not obeying the Lord your God."

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Thank you for pulling many disparate, observable prophetic elements in America into a linear narrative. I've noticed many of these things, too.

America truly has it all. I figure the only sexual sin left from the warnings in Leviticus is beastiality, which has already been around but last to rise to the fore publicly.

In another aspect, America has got to be the most gluttiness in idol worship since ancient times. Unfortunately it began almost from inception when the worship of "liberty" and "freedom" was raised above the Living God Who grants both. Look what the citizens have done with that freedom - lifted the personal motto of "Do what thou will" to Satanic heights.

I have personal doubts that America isn't too far gone already. Whether she is indeed prophetic Babylon or not, I'm convinced she won't be around one way or another (as she exists) to support Israel at the ultimate war of all nations.

Thoughts?

I posted a couple of topics this morning, "Sin in the Land: They have set them up Idols," and, "Ezekiel 38 & Today", which cover more of this.

As for beastiality, someone in 1979 showed me a magazine that depicted it grafficly, so it's definitely been going on. It was an American publication - probably underground, but still American.

I cannot concretely 100% sat US is Babylon, but in Biblical typology it agrees. Psalm 9:17 is a more simple straitforward truth: " The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."

Tyrus & Tyre in Ezekiel 27 also appears to be a type that fits . Look at verses 25-26
"The ships of Tarshish did sing of thee in thy market: and thou wast replenished, and made very glorious in the midst of the seas.
Thy rowers have brought thee into great waters: the east wind hath broken thee in the midst of the seas.
 
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