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[probinson]

Yeah, Biden should stick to current norms instead of responsibly dealing with his real world medical issues. He should have created a false set of electors ahead of time, and then called each swing state to make sure they "find" votes ahead of time.

Biden should not have run. Then the primaries would have been open to contenders. But the Democrats didn't want that.

 

[A2SG]

Biden should not have run. Then the primaries would have been open to contenders. But the Democrats didn't want that.

No, we wanted President Biden for another term. But we're not going to get that.

Unfortunately, he's not able to do it. So his vice president, who we also voted for as his running mate, will now run for office instead.

If we're okay with that, why are you complaining about it?

-- A2SG, I know Trump would prefer the Democrats just forfeit this race, but that's not gonna happen....

 

[probinson]

No, we wanted President Biden for another term. But we're not going to get that.

Unfortunately, he's not able to do it. So his vice president, who we also voted for as his running mate, will now run for office instead.

If we're okay with that, why are you complaining about it?

I'm actually rather amused by it. I'm amused that you're pretending that if Biden weren't in the primaries, that the Democratic voters would have chosen Kamala instead of one of the other candidates. But we'll never know now.

 

[A2SG]

I'm actually rather amused by it. I'm amused that you're pretending that if Biden weren't in the primaries, that the Democratic voters would have chosen Kamala instead of one of the other candidates. But we'll never know now.

I'm not pretending anything. Harris hasn't been nominated yet, so it's still possible the democrats might choose another candidate.

Time will tell.

-- A2SG, could be an open convention, ya know....

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I'm actually rather amused by it. I'm amused that you're pretending that if Biden weren't in the primaries, that the Democratic voters would have chosen Kamala instead of one of the other candidates. But we'll never know now.

What other candidates were there?

 

[probinson]

I'm not pretending anything. Harris hasn't been nominated yet, so it's still possible the democrats might choose another candidate.

Apparently you don't follow the news.

Harris Has Enough Delegates to Clinch Nomination for President​

Time will tell.

I suppose anything could happen. This election cycle has been anything but typical.

 

[probinson]

What other candidates were there?

If Biden had announced that he was not running, you don't think there would have been other candidates besides Harris?

An incumbent president running for re-election often faces almost no opposition at all from within the party. The field opens up when that incumbent announces they are not running, which did not happen.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

If Biden had announced that he was not running, you don't think there would have been other candidates besides Harris?

Maybe. None that I think would do better than the Vice President with the President’s support and endorsement.

Again I’ll ask, who do you think that could have been? Name someone you believe would have done better than Harris and why.

An incumbent president running for re-election often faces almost no opposition at all from within the party. The field opens up when that incumbent announces they are not running, which did not happen.

He was running. Now he’s not. Things change. There’s bigger problems to deal with and what’s really been hurting democrats lately has been the disunity of the party and the uncertainty surrounding Biden. That’s gone as long as democrats play it smart and unite behind Harris.

 

[probinson]

Maybe. None that I think would do better than the Vice President with the President’s support and endorsement.

Why do you think that? The last time Harris ran a campaign it was a complete and utter disaster that failed BEFORE the primaries. Why do you think she would have done better with Democratic voters this time around?

Again I’ll ask, who do you think that could have been? Name someone you believe would have done better than Harris and why.

Counterfactuals are silly. As I've said, there is no way to know what would have happened if Biden wouldn't have run.

He was running. Now he’s not. Things change. There’s bigger problems to deal with and what’s really been hurting democrats lately has been the disunity of the party and the uncertainty surrounding Biden. That’s gone as long as democrats play it smart and unite behind Harris.

On that we agree. As long as all the Democrats shut up, comply and fall in line, all will be well in the party.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Why do you think that? The last time Harris ran a campaign it was a complete and utter disaster that failed BEFORE the primaries.

The last time she was on a ballot, 81 million people voted for her and Joe to defeat Trump. She obviously did not weigh down the ticket.

Why do you think she would have done better with Democratic voters this time around?

The stakes are much higher now. She’s not an unknown. Behind the president she’s probably the most high profile Democrat in the country at the moment. She has the president’s endorsement. I think most importantly, she can prosecute the case against Donald Trump much better than Biden can.

Counterfactuals are silly. As I've said, there is no way to know what would have happened if Biden wouldn't have run.

Come on. Obviously you seem to think she’ll do poorly. Of the declared candidates from the primaries there’s got to be someone you think would have outperformed the sitting Vice President who was voted into office by 81 million people.

On that we agree. As long as all the Democrats shut up, comply and fall in line, all will be well in the party.

Yep. Don’t screw this one up Democrats.

 

[probinson]

The last time she was on a ballot, 81 million people voted for her and Joe to defeat Trump. She obviously did not weigh down the ticket.

Please. People were voting for Biden, not Harris. It's particularly amusing the way you chose to phrase that. "Voted for her and Joe", giving "her" top billing. Hilarious stuff, man.

I have no idea how she'll perform this time. Early polling shows her doing slightly better number than Biden, but there's still over 100 days until the election, so anything could happen.

How Kamala Harris fares against Trump in the 2024 polls

Several recent surveys show Harris doing the same as Biden against Trump — or just slightly better.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Please. People were voting for Biden, not Harris.

You really seem to like to speak for others. This is the second time you’ve tried telling me who I voted for.

Who did you vote for, if you don’t mind me asking? I voted in the CA primaries for…. Guess who?

Kamala Harris.

Crazy right? I’m a sucker for California girls. So you can imagine my delight when Biden picked her as his running mate. And wouldn’t you know it, 81 million other people joined me in voting for both her and Joe to defeat Donald Trump.

It's particularly amusing the way you chose to phrase that. "Voted for her and Joe", giving "her" top billing. Hilarious stuff, man.

More amusing is you thinking the VP wasn’t even a consideration when people were voting for an 80 year old man to be president.

I have no idea how she'll perform this time. Early polling shows her doing slightly better number than Biden, but there's still over 100 days until the election, so anything could happen.

How Kamala Harris fares against Trump in the 2024 polls

Several recent surveys show Harris doing the same as Biden against Trump — or just slightly better.

www.nbcnews.com

Slightly better than the guy who beat Trump last time is good enough for me at this point.

 

[probinson]

You really seem to like to speak for others. This is the second time you’ve tried telling me who I voted for.

Ah. So you voted for Harris. Good for you. Pretty sure the majority of people who voted in the 2020 Presidential election were voting for Biden. That's probably not that much of a stretch since she was polling so poorly in her last presidential bid she had to drop out before any votes were cast.

Who did you vote for, if you don’t mind me asking?

I'm not allowed to vote in primaries since I am a registered independent. Only people loyal to one tribe or the other are permitted to vote in the primaries.

I voted in the CA primaries for…. Guess who?

Kamala Harris.

Crazy right? I’m a sucker for California girls. So you can imagine my delight when Biden picked her as his running mate. And wouldn’t you know it, 81 million other people joined me in voting for both her and Joe to defeat Donald Trump.

"Her and Joe". Hilarious.

More amusing is you thinking the VP wasn’t even a consideration when people were voting for an 80 year old man to be president.

Oh I have no doubt that the VP is a consideration for people, but there's no question that the overwhelming majority of people voting in an election are voting for whoever is at the top of the ticket since they have no say in the choice of VP.

Slightly better than the guy who beat Trump last time is good enough for me at this point.

But both currently well behind Trump. That article did point out an interesting point, that Republicans that don't want Trump were much more likely to vote for Biden than they are for Harris. There's all kinds of moving parts going on here.

 

[durangodawood]

People, we are WAY off topic.

This thread is about Hulk Hogan electrifying the Republican National Convention!

 

[probinson]

Apologies. I'll do my part to get back on topic.

 

[A2SG]

Why do you think that? The last time Harris ran a campaign it was a complete and utter disaster that failed BEFORE the primaries. Why do you think she would have done better with Democratic voters this time around?

When she first ran, she was virtually unknown. Just a prosecutor from California, with little to no national recognition. Now, she's known. And she was endorsed by President Biden, so she has that going for her, which she didn't have before.

Counterfactuals are silly. As I've said, there is no way to know what would have happened if Biden wouldn't have run.

True enough.

On that we agree. As long as all the Democrats shut up, comply and fall in line, all will be well in the party.

And we all know how good Democrats are at that.

Sigh....

-- A2SG, no one can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like a democrat.....

 

[A2SG]

Ah. So you voted for Harris. Good for you. Pretty sure the majority of people who voted in the 2020 Presidential election were voting for Biden. That's probably not that much of a stretch since she was polling so poorly in her last presidential bid she had to drop out before any votes were cast.

If it helps, I also voted for Kamala Harris in the 2020 primary.

I'm not allowed to vote in primaries since I am a registered independent. Only people loyal to one tribe or the other are permitted to vote in the primaries.

Yeah, that's the thing about political parties...if you're not in 'em, they don't let you participate in 'em.

Kinda like most parties, really.

Oh I have no doubt that the VP is a consideration for people, but there's no question that the overwhelming majority of people voting in an election are voting for whoever is at the top of the ticket since they have no say in the choice of VP.

Sure. But when you vote for a ticket, you know if the first person can't fulfill the duties, for whatever reason, the second one will.

But both currently well behind Trump. That article did point out an interesting point, that Republicans that don't want Trump were much more likely to vote for Biden than they are for Harris. There's all kinds of moving parts going on here.

We won't know what will happen until it actually happens. Who knows? It looks like MAGA folk are doing everything they can behind the scenes to make sure the election is rigged for Donald, so they might even succeed, unlike the last time. Can't discount the fervency of the MAGA faithful.

-- A2SG, when you're armed with ferocity, the ardor of Donald, and a maxi pad on the ear, things happen.....

 

[probinson]

If it helps, I also voted for Kamala Harris in the 2020 primary.

I think your memory might be little fuzzy.

WASHINGTON — Kamala Harris had one great day in her ill-fated 2020 presidential campaign: her first.​

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Then came a rapid collapse.​

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The freshman senator who announced her candidacy in January 2019 before 20,000 cheering supporters in Oakland, California, dropped out in December before a single vote had been cast.​

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Harris gets another shot at a presidential campaign. This time, there’s no room for errors.

The vice president could inherit a sizable campaign apparatus that would benefit a candidate who has matured in the past four years.

www.nbcnews.com

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[A2SG]

I think your memory might be little fuzzy.

WASHINGTON — Kamala Harris had one great day in her ill-fated 2020 presidential campaign: her first.​

​

Then came a rapid collapse.​

​

The freshman senator who announced her candidacy in January 2019 before 20,000 cheering supporters in Oakland, California, dropped out in December before a single vote had been cast.​

​

Harris gets another shot at a presidential campaign. This time, there’s no room for errors.

The vice president could inherit a sizable campaign apparatus that would benefit a candidate who has matured in the past four years.

www.nbcnews.com

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Maybe she was still on the ballot in Massachusetts, then. Or maybe I'm misremembering.

-- A2SG, memories can play tricks on ya sometimes....

 

[ViaCrucis]

It has literally become the WWE.

Let's not besmirch the dignified name of the WWE by comparing it to the RNC.

-CryptoLutheran