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How Trump betraying the Budapest Memorandum might lead to WW3

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At the fall of the Soviet Union, Ukraine had about a third of their nukes.

In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, the UK, America, and Russia PLEDGED to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in exchange for Ukraine transferring its nuclear weapons to Russia and joining the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear state. PLEDGED!

But then Russia invaded - and now Trump is cheering them on!

What nation is ever going to trust the US again after that betrayal? The message is loud and clear. Keep your nukes - or get your own!

Trump may have just triggered the largest nuclear proliferation humanity will ever see - until "Oh oh - Armageddon by accident" finally gets us.

And Trump was so ignorant about all this HE had the gall to tell Zelensky - "You're gambling with WW3!"

What is Armageddon by Accident?

Well - here are a few times we nearly wiped out the Northern Hemisphere because of silly misunderstandings - there are more!

 
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No, you don’t understand.
GHW Bush and Bill Clinton came up with this, therefore Trump is right to ignore it, becuase he’s now “the decider” and what he says, goes.
Honoring commitments of “lesser men” isn’t Trump’s style.
 
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Pommer said:
No, you don’t understand.
GHW Bush and Bill Clinton came up with this is right to ignore it, becuase he’s now “the decider” and what he says, goes.
Honoring commitments of “lesser men” isn’t Trump’s style.
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So 49.9% of the population elected a lesser man whose policies are threatening the world?
Oh, but don't worry. Climate change may do us in first.
Elections have consequences--along with voting for the lesser nan.
 
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I have an idea that will cost nothing, save lives, and contribute to world peace. The United States should surrender to Russia and form a commonwealth. No one will die and the bloated Defense budget that benefits no one can be distributed to feed the masses, give them Soviet Era health care, everyone has a quality apartment to live in, all the news will be positive, and we will be the envy of the world.
 
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Isn't that Project 2026?

-- A2SG, part two, electric boogaloo ...
 
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Laodicean60 said:
I wonder, too, because we've betrayed a lot more than Ukraine in our history.
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I think most of our allies realize that it is Trump who is the problem, not America, and that when we regain our national sanity all will be well.
 
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Fantine said:
I think most of our allies realize that it is Trump who is the problem, not America, and that when we regain our national sanity all will be well.
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But how is it Westminster PMs don't seem to have the same power to completely and insanely undermine decades of basic security agreement?
While I'm with you in that I really hope and pray your next President is not an aging malignant narcissist, the problem of trust remains.

If America elected someone as daft and dangerous as Trump once - how do we know you will not so it again?
 
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Fantine said:
I think most of our allies realize that it is Trump who is the problem, not America, and that when we regain our national sanity all will be well.
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Until the next time. Isn't Sarah planing something later?
 
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Shirley you don't think that the American people would make the same mistake twice?
 
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The US republic has always been dependent on having a strong civil society... even many of our Founders recognized this. Unfortunately, decades of neoliberal economics have led to the decline of our civil society and its institutions, which is why we experience a lack of responsible government right now.
 
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Aryeh Jay said:
I don't know if I should be in awe of your obscure 80s move knowledge or disgusted. I'm leaning on the latter.
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I'll let you in on a little secret...I've never seen Breakin' 2 Electric Boogaloo....I looked it up on IMDB. I only remember the movie's title because it's a great title.

-- A2SG, but I have seen more than my share of 80s movies....good and bad....and believe me, I can get a heck of a lot more obscure....
 
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NOOOOO!
I never saw the movie either but I remembered the commercials "Breakin Two, Electric Boogaloo, comming to a theater near you this summer".
 
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Fantine said:
So 49.9% of the population elected a lesser man whose policies are threatening the world?
Oh, but don't worry. Climate change may do us in first.
Elections have consequences--along with voting for the lesser nan.
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And yet he won the popular vote, the electoral college , every swing state - the party won both the house and senate - beating the best the Democrats had to offer - and now their party is descending into chaos and at it's lowest approval rating in history.

Yet we are supposed to believe the worst of him?

But don't worry - if the Democratic Party doesn't drop their far left agenda, it will ensure the next Republican Candidate (I hope it is Vance) a better than average chance of winning even more.


As for the Budapest Memorandum - Trump is not the one who 'walked away from it' Biden in not confronting Putin while proliferating the war owns that.
 
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