Forgiving demons?

[IoanC]

It looks to me like Paul talks about forgiving other people not demons.

"Eph. 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you."

"Col. 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye."

God can certainly forgive demons, but we don't know if they themselves will accept that forgiveness.

 

[Stone-n-Steel]

God can certainly forgive demons, but we don't know if they themselves will accept that forgiveness.

Forgiveness was based on the blood of Jesus which was paid for us. I find no place in the scriptures which mentions forgiveness for any other being wether it be a Demon or some creature in space. By nature they are not not can be forgiven.

 

[IoanC]

Forgiveness was based on the blood of Jesus which was paid for us. I find no place in the scriptures which mentions forgiveness for any other being wether it be a Demon or some creature in space. By nature they are not not can be forgiven.

They are sinners by choice, not by nature. Only God can be something by nature. True, it seems that demons lost all opportunities to repent. But, it's not over until it's over. I believe there is a moral obligation to do all good that is possible unless it becomes impossible to do so or not needed anymore.

 

[Benjamin Müller]

No.

Demons committed the unpardonable sin. They have rejected God; His Son; His Holy Spirit; His Kingdom; and His children. They are against everything.

John 20:23
Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

The Lake of Fire is reserved for people and angels (demons) who refuse to repent. We are not obligated to forgive those who refuse to repent of their sins. Evil must be destroyed. You do not forgive evil. You forgive those who repent of evil. Demons are past the point of repentance.

 

[IoanC]

No.

Demons committed the unpardonable sin. They have rejected God; His Son; His Holy Spirit; His Kingdom; and His children. They are against everything.

John 20:23
Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

The Lake of Fire is reserved for people and angels (demons) who refuse to repent. We are not obligated to forgive those who refuse to repent of their sins. Evil must be destroyed. You do not forgive evil. You forgive those who repent of evil. Demons are past the point of repentance.

No.

Demons committed the unpardonable sin. They have rejected God; His Son; His Holy Spirit; His Kingdom; and His children. They are against everything.

John 20:23
Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

The Lake of Fire is reserved for people and angels (demons) who refuse to repent. We are not obligated to forgive those who refuse to repent of their sins. Evil must be destroyed. You do not forgive evil. You forgive those who repent of evil. Demons are past the point of repentance.

Well, destroying something is evil. Destroying evil is impossible because it is evil. God cannot be evil/destructive.

Demons might consider they have dominion over all that is evil and inevitably will tempt the one who is judgmental and condemning (negative traits). God may allow this until one is purified.

 

[Soul_Tsunami]

The Sin is unpardonable. There are many places in the bible that talk about a place reserved for them. God speaks and so it is. God does not change his mind. He is forever consistent.

He knows every detail of our lives before they happen. There are no surprises.

Concerning oneself with demons is not biblical!

 

[Gregory Thompson]

OK so, this question seems a bit weird. But the Bible states that our real enemies are spiritual. They are principalities and evil spirits etc. So, my question is this; are we also suppose to forgive them as we forgive the people they use to hurt us?

Along those lines, maybe confessing their sins since they won't do it, so it stops affecting creation negatively. Having sympathy for demons is hubris though.

 

[BlueSky2023]

Jude 1:9-10 NASB
But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” But these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed.

 

[IoanC]

I disagree with your salvation doubt...I know that I will be saved because of the promises of God/Jesus.

Romans 10:9-10 “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.”

The wicked can make the same claim. They will always know for sure they are saved. Whereas, when Christ returns, He made it clear that He only recognizes people according to their good deeds.

 

[Stone-n-Steel]

The wicked can make the same claim. They will always know for sure they are saved. Whereas, when Christ returns, He made it clear that He only recognizes people according to their good deeds.

Forgive the off topic reply. How do these verses in Ephesians support "good deeds" and when Paul talks about the seal of the Holy Spirit is he not talking about a life time seal?

Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Eph. 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Eph. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

I apologize if I have offended you. My goal is only to seek Spiritual Growth and Deeper Fellowship with God.

 

[IoanC]

Forgive the off topic reply. How do these verses in Ephesians support "good deeds" and when Paul talks about the seal of the Holy Spirit is he not talking about a life time seal?

Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Eph. 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Eph. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

I apologize if I have offended you. My goal is only to seek Spiritual Growth and Deeper Fellowship with God.

Well, I pray that God accepts your specific request.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Even if you were to forgive them, what comes next? Would you treat them as your friends? That would be extremely risky, as they are the deceivers of the entire world. Just forgive them, and that's it. Give them to God. If you do not forgive them, it will consume you like poison.

There is absolutely no instruction in Scripture for you to forgive demons. We are to have nothing to do with them, unless you are permitted as ministry to cast them out. The idea of forgiving demons is in the region of myth and useless speculation which will add nothing to your life in Christ.

 

[BlueSky2023]

There is absolutely no instruction in Scripture for you to forgive demons. We are to have nothing to do with them, unless you are permitted as ministry to cast them out. The idea of forgiving demons is in the region of myth and useless speculation which will add nothing to your life in Christ.

How about we set aside the demons and instead focus on examining anger?

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

How about we set aside the demons and instead focus on examining anger?

Anger is a secondary emotion. It is always caused by something else.

 

[Sabri]

I had a relationship with someone who turned out to be influenced by demons. This person turned out to be a shaman or witch. In partnership with demons for his power. At first, I didn’t know and thought we could be friends. However, the relationship soon turned diabolical. He made it known that he wanted more than a friendship but to control me through witchcraft and other forces. He wanted me to fellowship and agree to partner with him and the demon. I have since forgiven him. And i pray for him and that he repents. However, I know only God can truly save him.

 

[Soul_Tsunami]

The wicked can make the same claim. They will always know for sure they are saved. Whereas, when Christ returns, He made it clear that He only recognizes people according to their good deeds.

Please quote scripture when quoting Christ...I say this lovingly, you are incorrect, He knows who is sincere about their belief ins Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection. I think you are confusing righteous fruits with deeds.

John1 NKJV 10He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 3:9-11 NKJV
Children of God
9Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this the children of God are distinguished from the children of the devil: Anyone who does not practices righteousness is not of God, nor is anyone who does not love his brother. 11This is the message you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another.…

This doesn't mean we will not sin but the desire of our heart is to not sin...The byproduct of that would be the works you speak of, however, that is not how we get into heaven.

Rewards for work are given in heaven but only to those who believe first. No amount of good deeds gets us to heaven.

Ephesians 2 NKJV 8For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

Hope this helps!

 

[tturt]

Since they have already been judged by God, believe there's absolutely no reason to regard them otherwise.

One supporting verse -
"And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" (Matt 8)

Might want to read Eph 6. Available to us and it's not automatic - we put on God's armor.

 

[RileyG]

OK so, this question seems a bit weird. But the Bible states that our real enemies are spiritual. They are principalities and evil spirits etc. So, my question is this; are we also suppose to forgive them as we forgive the people they use to hurt us?

No. Forgiveness does not apply to them.

 

[Soul_Tsunami]

They are already condemned and are awaiting judgment.

 

[RileyG]

They are already condemned and are awaiting judgment.

Amen