Focus on the Family and Dr. James Dobson

[Polycarp_fan]

Focus on the Family and Dr. James Dobson represent a position on family and marriage from a Bible-based, Judeo-Christian stance.

How is the organization and Dr. Dobson wrong on the issues of family, children, and the overall health and stability it brings to society?

When the family is structured as a husband and wife, married, and raising their children, is this not the plan for Christians to support?

As a Christian, how is Focus on the Family and Dr. Dobson in error?

 

[Axioma]

Well...to be honest, I'm not familiar with Dr. Dobson, but my guess would be that it's because he focuses on other people's families.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Well...to be honest, I'm not familiar with Dr. Dobson, but my guess would be that it's because he focuses on other people's families.

I know the organization well, and it's all about the Christian concept.

 

[OdwinOddball]

Since I am not a Christian, I don't care one whit what the Christian position on family is.

Ya'll stay out of my home and my personal life, and I'll stay out of yours is my philosophy. Unfortunately groups like Focus on the Family don't seem to want to oblige, and keep trying to impose their morality on the rest of us.

Since they violate that basic tenant of a free society, what their actual position and beliefs are is entirely immaterial.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Christians do not lie with an agenda. Yet this is SOP with Dobson and FoF.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cach...088.htm+dobson+liar&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Since I am not a Christian, I don't care one whit what the Christian position on family is.

Ya'll stay out of my home and my personal life, and I'll stay out of yours is my philosophy. Unfortunately groups like Focus on the Family don't seem to want to oblige, and keep trying to impose their morality on the rest of us.

Since they violate that basic tenant of a free society, what their actual position and beliefs are is entirely immaterial.

But just as valid as yours.

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson (letter to J. Adams April 11,1823)

And the Lord said, "Listen to what the unjust judge says."

"And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly."

"However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"


Jefferson, has built quite the secular nation. And we have seen what has become of it.

Ask The Sioux nations.

 

[Belk]

Focus on the Family and Dr. James Dobson represent a position on family and marriage from a Bible-based, Judeo-Christian stance.

How is the organization and Dr. Dobson wrong on the issues of family, children, and the overall health and stability it brings to society?

When the family is structured as a husband and wife, married, and raising their children, is this not the plan for Christians to support?

As a Christian, how is Focus on the Family and Dr. Dobson in error?

Can a Christian misrepresent others work in order to support a position? My take is that if you have the Truth, you should not need to lie in order to support it. It should be evident to those who examine your position.

 

[TuxThePenguin]

The advice to fathers about showering with their sons was a goodie... It got dropped rather quickly from the family.org site.


edit: I spoke too soon - here it is

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm

 

[keith99]

Christians do not lie with an agenda. Yet this is SOP with Dobson and FoF.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cach...088.htm+dobson+liar&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us

So we are supposed to take a site that is far from biased and consider it gospel. One example, that site says Dobson claimed 80% of children are born out of wedlock in Norway. The site calls this a total fabrication and then gives a stat from 2003 saying it was 50% as evidence. So Dobson's number is likely an exageration.

Seems those who oppose Dobson do the very same things they accuse (likely more correctly than not) him of.

 

[Starbuck]

The advice to fathers about showering with their sons was a goodie... It got dropped rather quickly from the family.org site.


edit: I spoke too soon - here it is

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm

I've not liked Dr Dobson since my mother heard him talking about how you could inflict pain on a child by squeezing their trapisous muscles.

I do love reading work like his because it just makes so many assumptions. I had a good relationship with my father, a strong, respectable Pastor, and I never shied away from "Boy roughhousing." I got a hockey scholarship to Wisconsin and never showed any effeminate traits when I was a kid, yet I'm intractably gay, and I had Dobson's "Three A's" from my father, I don't think he ever missed a game and always told other people how proud he was of my brother and I. I've never been attracted to women sexually.

 

[cantata]

The question is why it matters that 50% of children in Norway are born out of wedlock.

 

[keith99]

The advice to fathers about showering with their sons was a goodie... It got dropped rather quickly from the family.org site.


edit: I spoke too soon - here it is

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm

Many disturbing things in the linked article. For me the biggest is that homosexual men are girly boys. Since the vast majority of gay men I know are Leathermen and much more apt to be bigger, stronger, rougher and more buff than average.

But this part has some good in it. At least he very firmly and clearly, actually rather agressively says that they have not chosen to be gay. Here is the paragraph:

The second thing we know is that the disorder is not typically "chosen." Homosexuals deeply resent being told that they selected this same-sex inclination in pursuit of sexual excitement or some other motive. It is unfair, and I don't blame them for being irritated by that assumption. Who among us would knowingly choose a path that would result in alienation from family, rejection by friends, disdain from the heterosexual world, exposure to sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS and tuberculosis, and even a shorter lifespan?4 No, homosexuality is not "chosen" except in rare circumstances. Instead, bewildered children and adolescents such as Mark find themselves dealing with something they don't even understand.

 

[Trevorocity]

The question is why it matters that 50% of children in Norway are born out of wedlock.

Because that's Teh Gheys fault for getting married...even though the out-of-wedlock birthrate occured BEFORE same-sex marriage...and even though its been going down since...

 

[Tenka]

Little different than the other bigots who want to blame all of society's problems on ethnic violence and post endless statistics on the overrepresentation of blacks or mexicans in prisons.
He just provides the fuel for those who want to hate an enemy.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

The advice to fathers about showering with their sons was a goodie... It got dropped rather quickly from the family.org site.


edit: I spoke too soon - here it is

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm

I read the whole thing. He mentions that fathers "can even" take their sons intot the shower with them . . . as a means of showing the difference bewteen a man and a woman, as something they would naturally notice.

That's a bad thing?

Also, his treatment of homosexuality is very respectful towards the condition.

By the way, your signature line, must you guys always denigrate the religious people of earth? You can't just let people live their lives without the invectives?

Whatever happened to the tolerance and diversity you practically worship?

Now, don't get me wrong, challenging others' positions does soemtimes enter the realm of what they consider insulting (especially in the PC world of the 21st century) but from the "elite illuminati," why the ubiquitous dig?

This doesn't sound all that unfair from Dr. Dobson (from your link):

The second thing we know is that the disorder is not typically "chosen." Homosexuals deeply resent being told that they selected this same-sex inclination in pursuit of sexual excitement or some other motive. It is unfair, and I don't blame them for being irritated by that assumption. Who among us would knowingly choose a path that would result in alienation from family, rejection by friends, disdain from the heterosexual world, exposure to sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS and tuberculosis, and even a shorter lifespan?4 No, homosexuality is not "chosen" except in rare circumstances. Instead, bewildered children and adolescents such as Mark find themselves dealing with something they don't even understand.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Because that's Teh Gheys fault for getting married...even though the out-of-wedlock birthrate occured BEFORE same-sex marriage...and even though its been going down since...

The Slippery Slide "Syndrome."

 

[wanderingone]

The advice to fathers about showering with their sons was a goodie... It got dropped rather quickly from the family.org site.


edit: I spoke too soon - here it is

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm

According to dobson I suffered from "prehomosexuality" as a kid. Oddly my parents never affirmed my femaleness- allowing me to be whatever i wanted to be - includining always choosing to play the male in our little plays, for halloween etc... but I am a straight female who suffers no gender identity issues.

Dobson can't even understand the difference between gender identity and sexuality I certainly wouldn't take his advice on how to deal with gender identity matters in children and homosexuality

 

[cantata]

The Slippery Slide "Syndrome."

Did you, I dunno, do anything crazy like read his post before you responded to it?

 

[wanderingone]

Focus on the Family and Dr. James Dobson represent a position on family and marriage from a Bible-based, Judeo-Christian stance.

How is the organization and Dr. Dobson wrong on the issues of family, children, and the overall health and stability it brings to society?

When the family is structured as a husband and wife, married, and raising their children, is this not the plan for Christians to support?

As a Christian, how is Focus on the Family and Dr. Dobson in error?

you are free to worship at the altar of Dobson et al - I believe him to be mistaken in many of his theories.

 

[LittleNipper]

Well...to be honest, I'm not familiar with Dr. Dobson, but my guess would be that it's because he focuses on other people's families.

And as a minsiter, teacher, pastor, missionary, friend, neighbor ---- exactly what is wrong in that.