Feeling very isolated

[faroukfarouk]

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I hope I quoted correctly, that was a long quote.

What you said about joy starting not at having the right situation, but at the cross - that's very powerful, and rings true. I need to let Him take control of my life, and I think a big part of that process is having gratitude and also immersing myself in scripture. Phil. 4:13 has been greatly helpful to me.

Thank you for posting those links. I will take a look when I have a bit more time (during naptime).

My husband and I used to read Bible passages daily but have not done so in several months now. I plan to mention it tonight, and I am sure he will be open to re-starting our Bible study together. He is also in need of spiritual renewal, so it will help both of us.

Oh it's so, so valuable if husbands and wives are able to read God's Word and pray together!

 

[victorinus]

You speak arrogantly as one who will give a popular Bible verse as a fix-all in everyone's lives. Very helpful. Not.

sometimes we lose sight of what we have -
what is important
-and-
it is helpful to be reminded

 

[ToBeLoved]

sometimes we lose sight of what we have -
what is important
-and-
it is helpful to be reminded

I think it was your words and tone.

 

[faroukfarouk]

What you said about joy starting not at having the right situation, but at the cross - that's very powerful, and rings true.

Poppyseed78:

You remind me of the hymn: "At the Cross, at the Cross, where I first saw the light, and the burden of my heart rolled away..."

 

[ToBeLoved]

Poppyseed78 I am so glad that you are finding comfort from your fellow Christians here on CF. please feel free to contact me via PM anytime sister. We all need to talk and get edification from fellow believers. I'm glad you are here!

 

[Poppyseed78]

Poppyseed78 I am so glad that you are finding comfort from your fellow Christians here on CF. please feel free to contact me via PM anytime sister. We all need to talk and get edification from fellow believers. I'm glad you are here!

Thank you! I really appreciate the support here.

 

[retlaw]

First off let me say that I am going to pray for your chronic pain issue. This is certainly an attack by Satan to harm you and keep you down. I'm not saying there isn't a physical cause, doctors are gifted by God for us to take advantage of. However I suspect our physical bodies are subservient to the spirit world not the other way around. When Jesus healed people of many physical sicknesses he called them unclean spirits. (keeping in mind they may have done nothing wrong to deserve it, we just live in a broken world).

You're original statements sound very much like something my wife might say. In her life she feels very isolated and has had some issues that are very similar. Let me say that there are always some truth and some deception in most things we deal with. The truth is that some of the people you mentioned did not handle the differences of opinions on politics and church in the proper way at all. The bible tells us to Love one another. It didn't say to love one another IF and ONLY if they agree with us 100%. There is zero excuse for this, not from family not from Christians.

However it's very possible that you didn't try your best to heal and mend those relationships because it's easier to just withdraw. Trust me it IS easier to withdraw, but Christ didn't call you to live an easy life, he called you to take the hard path, the crooked road, to climb the tall mountain not linger in the valley. Look at Jesus life, did he take the easy way? Did he avoid conflict? Did he side step the hard questions? Don't let Satan win these battles so easily. Start with your husbands family. I understand the rift, but start showing up at family gatherings again. They aren't likely to tell you to stay away. It was just easier for them to withdraw from a dispute than to lose the argument. I have seen families separate for many many years over stupid stuff like this and when they finally swallowed some pride and got back together they realized how stupid they had been to let small disputes destroy something so much more important. It's like killing your cow because after milking it the cow accidentally kicked over the milk bucket. What was worth more, the cow or the lousy bucket of milk.

It is NOT God's will for you to live in isolation. The bible is very clear about this. So that being said you need to pray about this and look closely at how you perceive these interactions. Friendship isn't about being in perfect harmony. No two people can have perfect harmony. It's about loving and Love is a sacrificial act.

 

[victorinus]

The bible tells us to Love one another. It didn't say to love one another IF and ONLY if they agree with us 100%.

good point -
we should still attend family functions even though there are different beliefs
-and-
we should not attempt to resolve these issues

 

[Poppyseed78]

First off let me say that I am going to pray for your chronic pain issue. This is certainly an attack by Satan to harm you and keep you down. I'm not saying there isn't a physical cause, doctors are gifted by God for us to take advantage of. However I suspect our physical bodies are subservient to the spirit world not the other way around. When Jesus healed people of many physical sicknesses he called them unclean spirits. (keeping in mind they may have done nothing wrong to deserve it, we just live in a broken world).

You're original statements sound very much like something my wife might say. In her life she feels very isolated and has had some issues that are very similar. Let me say that there are always some truth and some deception in most things we deal with. The truth is that some of the people you mentioned did not handle the differences of opinions on politics and church in the proper way at all. The bible tells us to Love one another. It didn't say to love one another IF and ONLY if they agree with us 100%. There is zero excuse for this, not from family not from Christians.

However it's very possible that you didn't try your best to heal and mend those relationships because it's easier to just withdraw. Trust me it IS easier to withdraw, but Christ didn't call you to live an easy life, he called you to take the hard path, the crooked road, to climb the tall mountain not linger in the valley. Look at Jesus life, did he take the easy way? Did he avoid conflict? Did he side step the hard questions? Don't let Satan win these battles so easily. Start with your husbands family. I understand the rift, but start showing up at family gatherings again. They aren't likely to tell you to stay away. It was just easier for them to withdraw from a dispute than to lose the argument. I have seen families separate for many many years over stupid stuff like this and when they finally swallowed some pride and got back together they realized how stupid they had been to let small disputes destroy something so much more important. It's like killing your cow because after milking it the cow accidentally kicked over the milk bucket. What was worth more, the cow or the lousy bucket of milk.

It is NOT God's will for you to live in isolation. The bible is very clear about this. So that being said you need to pray about this and look closely at how you perceive these interactions. Friendship isn't about being in perfect harmony. No two people can have perfect harmony. It's about loving and Love is a sacrificial act.

Thank you for your post. I will address the part about my husband's family. We still get together with his parents, about twice a month. We have them over to our house or we visit them at theirs.

As I said earlier, we don't attend bigger family functions. I actually would be mostly okay with attending, but my husband is not. The incident where they attacked us for changing churches - that occurred at my parents' home. At their housewarming party. My parents had recently moved halfway across the country to be closer to me, and they had a housewarming party, which my husband's relatives attended. It was at this party, in my parents' home, where they took it upon themselves to attack us.

At the time I was 26 years old. While my husband's grandmother was yelling at me, I turned away from her. She grabbed my face and ordered me to look at her when she was talking. I was a grown adult, and this was someone ELSE's grandmother. I didn't say anything, I didn't tell them all to leave. After the face-grabbing, everyone just kind of got up and skedaddled out the door.

Afterward, I cried for a long time. I felt betrayed. I had trusted my husband's family and considered them my own. This felt incredibly demeaning and hurtful. Do you know how much it hurts when your husband's family tells you that you ruined him, that he is now a bad Christian because of you? The ONLY THING WE DID was change churches to one that was a better fit. When someone says something like that, the implication is that they want you to divorce. They are not supportive of our marriage.

My husband told his mom how hurt I was, and she said "oh, they didn't mean it, just get over it." No one apologized. No one cared. My husband decided we were better off without these people, and so that's how it's been.

My mother in law keeps inviting us to things and really wants us to attend, but my husband doesn't want to see me hurt again. Who knows what they'll say now. They never cared to reach out to us and say they were sorry.

So we are isolated due to this, but honestly, is it better to stay home, or is it better to go out and risk getting yelled at again - even though we did nothing wrong? I'm not the kind of person who engages in a shouting match. I have a very hard time standing up for myself. And I guess this is why they preyed on me, and why they never bothered to say they were sorry. I mean, who cares if they apologize to me, I am not their blood. But what about my husband? This is his grandmother, his aunts - and they just don't care.

He is very strongly against us being in the same room with them again. I wish them well, and I pray for them. But honestly, I am afraid of these people and the wounds they could inflict on me again. To my understanding, they would like nothing more than for us to get divorced.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Thank you for your post. I will address the part about my husband's family. We still get together with his parents, about twice a month. We have them over to our house or we visit them at theirs.

As I said earlier, we don't attend bigger family functions. I actually would be mostly okay with attending, but my husband is not. The incident where they attacked us for changing churches - that occurred at my parents' home. At their housewarming party. My parents had recently moved halfway across the country to be closer to me, and they had a housewarming party, which my husband's relatives attended. It was at this party, in my parents' home, where they took it upon themselves to attack us.

At the time I was 26 years old. While my husband's grandmother was yelling at me, I turned away from her. She grabbed my face and ordered me to look at her when she was talking. I was a grown adult, and this was someone ELSE's grandmother. I didn't say anything, I didn't tell them all to leave. After the face-grabbing, everyone just kind of got up and skedaddled out the door.

Afterward, I cried for a long time. I felt betrayed. I had trusted my husband's family and considered them my own. This felt incredibly demeaning and hurtful. Do you know how much it hurts when your husband's family tells you that you ruined him, that he is now a bad Christian because of you? The ONLY THING WE DID was change churches to one that was a better fit. When someone says something like that, the implication is that they want you to divorce. They are not supportive of our marriage.

My husband told his mom how hurt I was, and she said "oh, they didn't mean it, just get over it." No one apologized. No one cared. My husband decided we were better off without these people, and so that's how it's been.

My mother in law keeps inviting us to things and really wants us to attend, but my husband doesn't want to see me hurt again. Who knows what they'll say now. They never cared to reach out to us and say they were sorry.

So we are isolated due to this, but honestly, is it better to stay home, or is it better to go out and risk getting yelled at again - even though we did nothing wrong? I'm not the kind of person who engages in a shouting match. I have a very hard time standing up for myself. And I guess this is why they preyed on me, and why they never bothered to say they were sorry. I mean, who cares if they apologize to me, I am not their blood. But what about my husband? This is his grandmother, his aunts - and they just don't care.

He is very strongly against us being in the same room with them again. I wish them well, and I pray for them. But honestly, I am afraid of these people and the wounds they could inflict on me again. To my understanding, they would like nothing more than for us to get divorced.

Sometimes it's just best to keep a polite distance, while praying for them and - best as one can - moving on by God's grace.

Re. church activities, I think Acts 2.42 is a great guide: 'And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine, and in fellowship and in breaking and bread and prayers.' Sometimes the person has mobility and travel issues, which is understandable; as basic spiritual activities, this is a good guide; so much that goes under 'church' isn't actually Scriptural.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Thank you for your post. I will address the part about my husband's family. We still get together with his parents, about twice a month. We have them over to our house or we visit them at theirs.

As I said earlier, we don't attend bigger family functions. I actually would be mostly okay with attending, but my husband is not. The incident where they attacked us for changing churches - that occurred at my parents' home. At their housewarming party. My parents had recently moved halfway across the country to be closer to me, and they had a housewarming party, which my husband's relatives attended. It was at this party, in my parents' home, where they took it upon themselves to attack us.

At the time I was 26 years old. While my husband's grandmother was yelling at me, I turned away from her. She grabbed my face and ordered me to look at her when she was talking. I was a grown adult, and this was someone ELSE's grandmother. I didn't say anything, I didn't tell them all to leave. After the face-grabbing, everyone just kind of got up and skedaddled out the door.

Afterward, I cried for a long time. I felt betrayed. I had trusted my husband's family and considered them my own. This felt incredibly demeaning and hurtful. Do you know how much it hurts when your husband's family tells you that you ruined him, that he is now a bad Christian because of you? The ONLY THING WE DID was change churches to one that was a better fit. When someone says something like that, the implication is that they want you to divorce. They are not supportive of our marriage.

My husband told his mom how hurt I was, and she said "oh, they didn't mean it, just get over it." No one apologized. No one cared. My husband decided we were better off without these people, and so that's how it's been.

My mother in law keeps inviting us to things and really wants us to attend, but my husband doesn't want to see me hurt again. Who knows what they'll say now. They never cared to reach out to us and say they were sorry.

So we are isolated due to this, but honestly, is it better to stay home, or is it better to go out and risk getting yelled at again - even though we did nothing wrong? I'm not the kind of person who engages in a shouting match. I have a very hard time standing up for myself. And I guess this is why they preyed on me, and why they never bothered to say they were sorry. I mean, who cares if they apologize to me, I am not their blood. But what about my husband? This is his grandmother, his aunts - and they just don't care.

He is very strongly against us being in the same room with them again. I wish them well, and I pray for them. But honestly, I am afraid of these people and the wounds they could inflict on me again. To my understanding, they would like nothing more than for us to get divorced.

I wanted to say a few things after reading this.

First, for anyone to lay a hand on you and physically assault you, I would be afraid of them too. This to me is the line that was crossed (among others in your case) but to me this sticks out as a real valid fear of being in their presence.

Saying that, you know I fully support you and your feelings, but I will just list a few thoughts and Bible verses that may or may not pertain to your situation. I am listing them that they 'may' help or give you further thought if this is your situation, I am not saying it is, I don't know so I want to clarify that.

The first point that I wanted to make or ask about is "Does your husband fully forgive his family as Christ commands us to do"? Now I know this does not seem important, but really spiritually it is, for God's Word is clear:

Matthew 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours.

Mark 11:26
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
http://biblehub.com/greek/3900.htm
Matthew 5:44
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you


Forgiveness is serious business so I would be sure your husband has done this. It sounds like you have already because you pray for them.


The other thought is I might answer one of the grandparents invites with some scripture. Maybe it will shed some light for her that what you really desire is an apology. Maybe that verse about if you have wronged your brother, go to that person and make things right before going to pray to God.

Matthew 5:21-26

(Luke 12:57-59)

21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

I would want to at least make that attempt, but again I am not telling you what to do. Since she is violent I would do it in a card or letter or something.

I hope you take these as food for thought. Might pertain, might not.

Be blessed. *hugs*

 

[Poppyseed78]

I wanted to say a few things after reading this.

First, for anyone to lay a hand on you and physically assault you, I would be afraid of them too. This to me is the line that was crossed (among others in your case) but to me this sticks out as a real valid fear of being in their presence.

Saying that, you know I fully support you and your feelings, but I will just list a few thoughts and Bible verses that may or may not pertain to your situation. I am listing them that they 'may' help or give you further thought if this is your situation, I am not saying it is, I don't know so I want to clarify that.

The first point that I wanted to make or ask about is "Does your husband fully forgive his family as Christ commands us to do"? Now I know this does not seem important, but really spiritually it is, for God's Word is clear:

Matthew 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours.

Mark 11:26
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Matthew 5:44
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you


Forgiveness is serious business so I would be sure your husband has done this. It sounds like you have already because you pray for them.


The other thought is I might answer one of the grandparents invites with some scripture. Maybe it will shed some light for her that what you really desire is an apology. Maybe that verse about if you have wronged your brother, go to that person and make things right before going to pray to God.

Matthew 5:21-26

(Luke 12:57-59)

21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

I would want to at least make that attempt, but again I am not telling you what to do. Since she is violent I would do it in a card or letter or something.

I hope you take these as food for thought. Might pertain, might not.

Be blessed. *hugs*

Thank you for taking the time to reply and offering your support and encouragement.

My husband has definitely not forgiven his family. It has been eating at him for a long time now. He is usually a very understanding and generous person, so this is out of character. But no one had ever hurt me in his presence before, so he was quite angry about it.

I think I was able to forgive because they aren't my family, and I don't have a lifetime of memories with them. It sounds almost backwards, but it's like I can't expect more from them because they didn't know me my entire life. In general I have low expectations of people. On the other hand, my husband was deeply hurt because he expected more from them.
I have encouraged him to try to find it in his heart to forgive and reminded him of Matt 6:14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. So far his heart is hardened. He's afraid that if he forgives them, and we spend time with them, they will just find another way to hurt us. I think he should forgive them AND we should still keep our distance, at least for the time being. I'm praying for his heart to soften so that he will be able to forgive. Lately he is feeling distant from God, and I think this is why.

I don't want to bring my baby around them. I think it would be irresponsible to do so. I feel like they wish us ill. Who would bring a child into such an environment?

My mother-in-law tries to guilt us into seeing the relatives again by saying things like "everyone is getting older, they might die soon and then you will regret not spending time with them." To be entirely honest, I do not think I will regret it. They have many children, grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren; they are okay without us. And I do not feel they have valuable wisdom to share with us. As I said before, I pray for them, for their salvation, for God to protect them and care for them.

My MIL also says that we should "turn the other cheek". I don't think it means what she thinks it means. Coming back for more abuse from these people is foolish. It's not just a matter of a difference of opinion. I'm hesitant to reach out to the relatives for a few reasons. First, my husband is against that, and second, I fear it would be like opening a can of worms. If you give an inch, they'll take a mile, so I don't know if I want to go down that road right now.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Thank you for taking the time to reply and offering your support and encouragement.

My husband has definitely not forgiven his family. It has been eating at him for a long time now. He is usually a very understanding and generous person, so this is out of character. But no one had ever hurt me in his presence before, so he was quite angry about it.

I think I was able to forgive because they aren't my family, and I don't have a lifetime of memories with them. It sounds almost backwards, but it's like I can't expect more from them because they didn't know me my entire life. In general I have low expectations of people. On the other hand, my husband was deeply hurt because he expected more from them.
I have encouraged him to try to find it in his heart to forgive and reminded him of Matt 6:14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. So far his heart is hardened. He's afraid that if he forgives them, and we spend time with them, they will just find another way to hurt us. I think he should forgive them AND we should still keep our distance, at least for the time being. I'm praying for his heart to soften so that he will be able to forgive. Lately he is feeling distant from God, and I think this is why.

I don't want to bring my baby around them. I think it would be irresponsible to do so. I feel like they wish us ill. Who would bring a child into such an environment?

My mother-in-law tries to guilt us into seeing the relatives again by saying things like "everyone is getting older, they might die soon and then you will regret not spending time with them." To be entirely honest, I do not think I will regret it. They have many children, grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren; they are okay without us. And I do not feel they have valuable wisdom to share with us. As I said before, I pray for them, for their salvation, for God to protect them and care for them.

My MIL also says that we should "turn the other cheek". I don't think it means what she thinks it means. Coming back for more abuse from these people is foolish. It's not just a matter of a difference of opinion. I'm hesitant to reach out to the relatives for a few reasons. First, my husband is against that, and second, I fear it would be like opening a can of worms. If you give an inch, they'll take a mile, so I don't know if I want to go down that road right now.

Here's an interesting quote from someone called Bishop Butler in the 18th century: "If things and actions are what they are, and their consequences will be what they will be, then why should we wish to deceive ourselves?"

It's good to pray for people who have a proven record being toxic, and then to move on, avoiding them. It's not as if you don't already know the likely consequences of being around them for any length of time.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Thank you for taking the time to reply and offering your support and encouragement.

My husband has definitely not forgiven his family. It has been eating at him for a long time now. He is usually a very understanding and generous person, so this is out of character. But no one had ever hurt me in his presence before, so he was quite angry about it.

I think I was able to forgive because they aren't my family, and I don't have a lifetime of memories with them. It sounds almost backwards, but it's like I can't expect more from them because they didn't know me my entire life. In general I have low expectations of people. On the other hand, my husband was deeply hurt because he expected more from them.
I have encouraged him to try to find it in his heart to forgive and reminded him of Matt 6:14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. So far his heart is hardened. He's afraid that if he forgives them, and we spend time with them, they will just find another way to hurt us. I think he should forgive them AND we should still keep our distance, at least for the time being. I'm praying for his heart to soften so that he will be able to forgive. Lately he is feeling distant from God, and I think this is why.

I don't want to bring my baby around them. I think it would be irresponsible to do so. I feel like they wish us ill. Who would bring a child into such an environment?

My mother-in-law tries to guilt us into seeing the relatives again by saying things like "everyone is getting older, they might die soon and then you will regret not spending time with them." To be entirely honest, I do not think I will regret it. They have many children, grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren; they are okay without us. And I do not feel they have valuable wisdom to share with us. As I said before, I pray for them, for their salvation, for God to protect them and care for them.

My MIL also says that we should "turn the other cheek". I don't think it means what she thinks it means. Coming back for more abuse from these people is foolish. It's not just a matter of a difference of opinion. I'm hesitant to reach out to the relatives for a few reasons. First, my husband is against that, and second, I fear it would be like opening a can of worms. If you give an inch, they'll take a mile, so I don't know if I want to go down that road right now.

I see your point. And you do have a child which violence in families and family conflicts can be damaging for them.

You of course are right and I pray that your husband's heart will soften into forgiveness. Forgiveness does not mean forgetting, forgiveness means letting it go, the feelings, the anger. He needs to put it at the feet of Christ, His yoke is light, our yoke is heavy. In Him we find rest from our weariness. I hope He finds rest in Christ for this that is obviously still bothering him.

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We need to (and me too more often) let Christ carry the load, it's too heavy for us spiritually sometimes.

God bless you.

 

[Poppyseed78]

Here's an interesting quote from someone called Bishop Butler in the 18th century: "If things and actions are what they are, and their consequences will be what they will be, then why should we wish to deceive ourselves?"

It's good to pray for people who have a proven record being toxic, and then to move on, avoiding them. It's not as if you don't already know the likely consequences of being around them for any length of time.

Yeah, I feel like if past actions are any indication, then it will likely happen again, especially in the absence of any apology.

I see your point. And you do have a child which violence in families and family conflicts can be damaging for them.

You of course are right and I pray that your husband's heart will soften into forgiveness. Forgiveness does not mean forgetting, forgiveness means letting it go, the feelings, the anger. He needs to put it at the feet of Christ, His yoke is light, our yoke is heavy. In Him we find rest from our weariness. I hope He finds rest in Christ for this that is obviously still bothering him.

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We need to (and me too more often) let Christ carry the load, it's too heavy for us spiritually sometimes.

God bless you.

I agree, my husband should let this burden go. It's damaging not only to himself, but to me as well. I understand it's difficult though. I still carry anger from the past.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Yeah, I feel like if past actions are any indication, then it will likely happen again, especially in the absence of any apology.



I agree, my husband should let this burden go. It's damaging not only to himself, but to me as well. I understand it's difficult though. I still carry anger from the past.

Oh me too! I'm in constant repentance asking God to soften my heart towards people. It does not come quick, but it does come. I take things very hard also if someone is close to me.

The Holy Spirit keeps working with us in love. Often it takes a while or at least for me it did. Years in one bad, bad case with my cousin. But I got through it. Persistance and prayer.

 

[Eye4Eye26]

We're all brothers & sisters in Christ so feel free to send me a message any time. I might not always know what to say but I'll always say something lol.

 

[Pedrito]

I have two low-key suggestions for Poppyseed78.

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The first is to do with the chronic pain.

There are natural remedies available for all sorts of things, and there may be one to help alleviate her condition. I suggest that Poppyseed78 check on the internet. (Most doctors will not tell people about the natural remedies. They will normally advise against them if asked. They want people to keep coming back.)

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Secondly, it is amazing how on-line, interactive Bible study (via Skype for instance) with an actually supportive group can help. Most groups I’ve come across weren’t supportive as such. But if Poppyseed78 shops around until she finds one that she is comfortable with and finds helpful, then that could well be a positive step.

I understand what isolation feels like. And rejection.

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That’s my tuppence worth, for what it’s worth.