FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6

[Truth7t7]

Washington Examiner​

FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6​

August 20, 2021

The Cambridge Dictionary defines “insurrection” as: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence”

By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI. Reuters reports:

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

 

[SimplyMe]

There was an attempt at sedition, though, which is little better.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

"not centrally coordinated

"It was the most violent attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812, forcing lawmakers and Trump's own vice president, Mike Pence, to scramble for safety.

"Four people died and another died the following day, and more than 100 police officers were injured.

"Trump made an incendiary speech at a nearby rally shortly before the riot, repeating false claims that the 2020 election was stolen and urging supporters to march on the Capitol to pressure lawmakers to reject Biden's victory.

"Conspiracy charges that have been filed allege that defendants discussed their plans in the weeks before the attack and worked together on the day itself. But prosecutors have not alleged that this activity was part of a broader plot."

Like so much related to the former president, not coordinated, not well planned or thought out.
You don't need to remind us, Truth7t7.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So what is this, just an attempt to flood the zone with misleading opinions from RW media?

The definition used for the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol doesn't lessen it, nor will it stop the indictment of it's orchestrator.

 

[Truth7t7]

"not centrally coordinated

"It was the most violent attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812, forcing lawmakers and Trump's own vice president, Mike Pence, to scramble for safety.

"Four people died and another died the following day, and more than 100 police officers were injured.

"Trump made an incendiary speech at a nearby rally shortly before the riot, repeating false claims that the 2020 election was stolen and urging supporters to march on the Capitol to pressure lawmakers to reject Biden's victory.

"Conspiracy charges that have been filed allege that defendants discussed their plans in the weeks before the attack and worked together on the day itself. But prosecutors have not alleged that this activity was part of a broader plot."

Like so much related to the former president, not coordinated, not well planned or thought out.
You don't need to remind us, Truth7t7.

I Disagree with your claims and narrative, as the FBI pointed out, and Reuters and the Washington Examiner reported

FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6​

 

[Truth7t7]

So what is this, just an attempt to flood the zone with misleading opinions from RW media?

The definition used for the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol doesn't lessen it, nor will it stop the indictment of it's orchestrator.

I disagree with your claims, just as the opinion states

FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6​

 

[Hans Blaster]

I disagree with your claims, just as the opinion states

FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6​

Your story is sourced to 4 "law enforcement officials". None are attributed to being in the FBI or part of the investigation (just one with "knowledge" of it).

 

[Truth7t7]

Your story is sourced to 4 "law enforcement officials". None are attributed to being in the FBI or part of the investigation (just one with "knowledge" of it).

The story is linked to Reuters and the Washington Examine posted Aug 2021 both large News Outlets almost 2 years ago,

Please show one article where the News Outlets above have been sued or retracted statements regarding this reporting made, waiting?

 

[Hans Blaster]

The story is linked to Reuters and the Washington Examine posted Aug 2021 both large News Outlets almost 2 years ago,

Please show one article where the News Outlets above have been sued or retracted statements regarding this reporting made, waiting?

Why would there be a law suit? Who could possibly sue?

And two years old? The DOJ hadn't even charged anyone with sedition yet then. I see no evidence that the "sources" have any real information to provide, just a lot of personal assessments and a lack of courage to state them publicly.

 

[Truth7t7]

Why would there be a law suit? Who could possibly sue?

And two years old? The DOJ hadn't even charged anyone with sedition yet then. I see no evidence that the "sources" have any real information to provide, just a lot of personal assessments and a lack of courage to state them publicly.

Let's create a narrative, it's no longer "insurrection" but is now "sedition" Big Smiles!

 

[Hans Blaster]

Let's create a narrative, it's no longer "insurrection" but is now "sedition" Big Smiles!

What's your point? A legal technicality? Seems like a strong foundation to build an argument on. (eye roll)

 

[FreeinChrist]

FBI and Homeland Security ignored 'massive amount' of intelligence before Jan. 6, Senate report says

The report by the panel’s majority staff says the intelligence community has not entirely recalibrated to focus on the threats of domestic, rather than international, terrorism.

apnews.com

The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security downplayed or ignored “a massive amount of intelligence information” ahead of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S Capitol, according to the chairman of a Senate panel that on Tuesday released a new report on the intelligence failures ahead of the insurrection.​

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It is an article from AP so I can only quote one sentence. Good article.

 

[Pommer]

Washington Examiner​

FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6​

August 20, 2021

The Cambridge Dictionary defines “insurrection” as: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence”

By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI. Reuters reports:

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

Does the US Code oft rely on the Cambridge Dictionary for legal definitions?

 

[DaisyDay]

Washington Examiner​

FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6
August 20, 2021​

The Cambridge Dictionary defines “insurrection” as: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence”

By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI. Reuters reports:

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

Yeah, that was from 2 years ago. Much has been uncovered since. Not only have rioters been charged with seditious conspiracy in the intervening years, but they have been found guilty.

 

[DaisyDay]

This is just a rehash of the old thread. At what point does this just become spamming?

 

[Truth7t7]

This is just a rehash of the old thread. At what point does this just become spamming?

Sounds like you don't like opposition to the false claims of insurrection on Jan 6th, and the article that shows the FBI confirmed there was no insurrection on Jan 6th, this isn't a rehash or spam of Tucker Carlson as you claim

We need to cover the truth from all angles, stay informed, support free and open dialog on differences of opinion in a democratic society "Right"?

Or shall we have mob rule with one side of the coin being presented 100% of the time?

 

[Truth7t7]

Yeah, that was from 2 years ago. Much has been uncovered since. Not only have rioters been charged with seditious conspiracy in the intervening years, but they have been found guilty.

120,000 attended the Trump rally on Jan 6th, as of to date 11 have been charged with "Seditious Conspiracy" thats 1/11,000,

No insurrection took place just as the FBI confirmed, 1,100 have been charged less than 1% of the 120, 000, with 85%-90% charged with misdemeanors, the FBI has it 100% correct, there was no insurrection on Jan 6th

It's the liberal democratic media through smoke and mirrors that created the false narrative of Jan 6th being an insurrection

 

[Hans Blaster]

120,000 attended the Trump rally on Jan 6th, as of to date 11 have been charged with "Seditious Conspiracy" thats 1/11,000,

Actually it is 13 that have been *convicted*, 18 that have been charged.

No insurrection took place just as the FBI confirmed, 1,100 have been charged less than 1% of the 120, 000, with 85%-90% charged with misdemeanors, the FBI has it 100% correct, there was no insurrection on Jan 6th

Since you keep posting this I will reply again: more than 1/3 have been charged with felonies. The misdemeanor-only group is less than 65% of the charged.

It's the liberal democratic media through smoke and mirrors that created the false narrative of Jan 6th being an insurrection

Are you just going to block copy the same text in to multiple posts?

 

[Truth7t7]

Actually it is 13 that have been *convicted*, 18 that have been charged.

Your article presented dated of July 6th 2023 states 4 felony convictions of seditious conspiracy

Since you keep posting this I will reply again: more than 1/3 have been charged with felonies. The misdemeanor-only group is less than 65% of the charged.

Ok 1/3 0r roughly 360 felony charges, but presently 160 have been convicted as I stated

Are you just going to block copy the same text in to multiple posts?

Your false claim of myself copy and pasting in violation of forum rules is a direct personal attack, I write it out each individual time I post

Stop the false personal attacks!

 

[Pommer]

Sounds like you don't like opposition to the false claims of insurrection on Jan 6th, and the article that shows the FBI confirmed there was no insurrection on Jan 6th, this isn't a rehash or spam of Tucker Carlson as you claim

We need to cover the truth from all angles, stay informed, support free and open dialog on differences of opinion in a democratic society "Right"?

Or shall we have mob rule with one side of the coin being presented 100% of the time?

Popular opinion should trump “facts” & “truth”?
W h a t?