EPA's New Coal Pollution Rules: More Death, More Asthma

[Desk trauma]

Fun fact, coal plants are being closed down under trump single term more then Obama entire presidency.

And neither of them can take credit/be blamed for that. HRSGs are the most economic way to make power at the moment. And I’m building one right now..

 

[super animator]

And neither of them can take credit/be blamed for that. HRSGs are the most economic way to make power at the moment. And I’m building one right now..

That doesn't stop trump apparently.

 

[Desk trauma]

That doesn't stop trump apparently.

It will however stop most coal consumption in the US in the near future. Old plants are closing and new ones are not being built but I can see the coal lobby getting relief from economic reality from the champions of the free market.

 

[rambot]

I kinda (sorry, full on) laugh at people who say "if it's not in this 250 year old document, then OBVIOUSLY we don't need it around".

 

[variant]

It will however stop most coal consumption in the US in the near future. Old plants are closing and new ones are not being built but I can see the coal lobby getting relief from economic reality from the champions of the free market.

That's what the champions of the free market do. They make government pay subsidies to their friends in the farming community, and the coal, and nuclear power industry.

 

[Pommer]

That's what the champions of the free market do. They make government pay subsidies to their friends in the farming community, and the coal, and nuclear power industry.

Its odd, that “the other side” (RW), cannot see how what Trump has done to American farmers would be roundly, (yea, verily and rightly too), denounced, if:
A “Democrat President” unilaterally decided that the auto makers could no long sell cars with gasoline engines.
Then, after they suffer crippling losses, this Commie Dem shovels MONEY at them so that he won’t lose the UAW’s support!

 

[JackRT]

Its odd, that “the other side” (RW), cannot see how what Trump has done to American farmers would be roundly, (yea, verily and rightly too), denounced, if:
A “Democrat President” unilaterally decided that the auto makers could no long sell cars with gasoline engines.
Then, after they suffer crippling losses, this Commie Dem shovels MONEY at them so that he won’t lose the UAW’s support!

Yep, when capitalism goes off the rails (through its own fault) we turn to socialism to rescue it.

Ironic!

 

[DaisyDay]

Has it been mentioned in this thread that the current head of the EPA, Andrew Wheeler, is a former coal industry lobbyist?

 

[JackRT]

Has it been mentioned in this thread that the current head of the EPA, Andrew Wheeler, is a former coal industry lobbyist?

Yes, the fox is in charge of the hen house. Talk about conflict of interest.

 

[rambot]

Fun fact, coal plants are being closed down under trump single term more then Obama entire presidency.

And why is that?

To me, it seems that these would be close downs/shut downs that were initiated during Obama's tenure.

 

[essentialsaltes]

And why is that?

Because they have become economically unfeasible with the advent of cheap natural gas.

To me, it seems that these would be close downs/shut downs that were initiated during Obama's tenure.

Natural gas production roughly doubled during Obama's presidency, and the price was more than cut in half. So the economics began to shift during that time, but it had very little to do with Obama or any actions of his administration.

 

[rambot]

Because they have become economically unfeasible with the advent of cheap natural gas.



Natural gas production roughly doubled during Obama's presidency, and the price was more than cut in half. So the economics began to shift during that time, but it had very little to do with Obama or any actions of his administration.

Except, theoretically, that he allowed the explosion of shale exploration (which many people don't much care for).

 

[Pommer]

Because they have become economically unfeasible with the advent of cheap natural gas.



Natural gas production roughly doubled during Obama's presidency, and the price was more than cut in half. So the economics began to shift during that time, but it had very little to do with Obama or any actions of his administration.

Yup.
“Market forces”.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Except, theoretically, that he allowed the explosion of shale exploration (which many people don't much care for).

Be careful, it might be unpatriotic to disparage freedom gas.

Elsewhere in the government’s press release, U.S. Undersecretary of Energy Mark W. Menezes explains, “Increasing export capacity from the Freeport LNG project is critical to spreading freedom gas throughout the world by giving America’s allies a diverse and affordable source of clean energy.” (Bolds are mine.)

 

[iluvatar5150]

Be careful, it might be unpatriotic to disparage freedom gas.

Elsewhere in the government’s press release, U.S. Undersecretary of Energy Mark W. Menezes explains, “Increasing export capacity from the Freeport LNG project is critical to spreading freedom gas throughout the world by giving America’s allies a diverse and affordable source of clean energy.” (Bolds are mine.)

I'm gonna use that line on my wife next time we have tacos.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I'm gonna use that line on my wife next time we have tacos.

She may ask you to export it to a foreign country.