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Elon Musk: Voting for Trump ‘only way’ to ‘save’ democracy

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I'll wait here for your evidence that it is:
a) politically determined
b) an actual problem
c) makes any difference
d) has got worse since 2020 and...
e) who is at fault.

I'll check in later when you have an answer to all five.
A. Politically determined. This can be shown by the actions of the current administrations change in policy to allow the problem we now face. If you are looking for a smoking gun statement from Biden admitting his policies are politically motivated don’t hold your breath. Most politicians are politically motivated. B.An actual problem. Just talk to the mayor of New York as well as many other mayors and governors. They can tell you what a problem this is. C. Makes any difference. Same answer as B. D. Has got worse since 2020. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/ E. Who is at fault. Is this a serious question? Who is the President who’s policies allowed the to happen? The would be Joe Biden. Just curious are you on Kamala’s campaign payroll? You seem heavily invested in supporting a fraud in an empty suit. IMO you are failing at an attempt to put lipstick on Pig. What is your real motivation?
 
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A. Politically determined. This can be shown by the actions of the current administrations change in policy to allow the problem we now face. If you are looking for a smoking gun statement from Biden admitting his policies are politically motivated don’t hold your breath. Most politicians are politically motivated.
There is no problem as has been explained. And if you want to go back decades and are convinced that it's a problem and politically motivated then the Republicans have held the reins for two thirds of the time.
B.An actual problem. Just talk to the mayor of New York as well as many other mayors and governors. They can tell you what a problem this is.
It's been shown that there is no problem. It balances out between red states and blue ones.
C. Makes any difference. Same answer as B.
Same comment.
You have been shown that there is parity between seats. Linking to an article that discusses immigrant numbers doesn't change that.
E. Who is at fault. Is this a serious question? Who is the President who’s policies allowed the to happen?
There is no problem. Again, you have been shown that this is the case.
 
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There is no problem as has been explained. And if you want to go back decades and are convinced that it's a problem and politically motivated then the Republicans have held the reins for two thirds of the time.

It's been shown that there is no problem. It balances out between red states and blue ones.

Same comment.

You have been shown that there is parity between seats. Linking to an article that discusses immigrant numbers doesn't change that.

There is no problem. Again, you have been shown that this is the case.
I have been shown nothing. The full effects of this are yet to be seen. The fact is this country has been overwhelmed with illegals and liberal propaganda will not change that fact.
 
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Musk just came up with the idea. Brogan BamBrogan and Shervin Pishevar are the ones who founded, built, and ran Hyperloop One. You might as well blame Henry Ford for the failure of the DeLorean Motor Company.

Talking about the hyperloop that's abandoned? Yeah, that was just a way to stiffle having high speed rail built in California. The whole thing was never going to work and it was known internally.
I was actually talking about the Boring Company.
 
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So, no problem as yet. Contact your local congressman/woman to urge a change in the constitution. Let us know how that goes.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I did not say no problem as yet. The constitution is not the problem. Liberals that don’t follow the constitution they swore to uphold is the problem. Let’s don’t forget that those who support those that don’t follow the constitution are also part of the problem.
 
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The rules of equality explain this phenomena all across the West. Naturally, everybody within countries should be equal - have an equal outcome. But this applies to countries too. You can't have 1st world countries in a world of equal. Hence, they are flooded with poor immigrants.

Who says "they" are flooded with poor immigrants?

To immigrate, whether legally or not, typically a person has to have access to resources. That's not compatible with notions of destitution. Destitute people usually stay put, having no other means to escape their situation.
 
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Don’t put words in my mouth. I did not say no problem as yet. Liberals that don’t follow the constitution they swore to uphold is the problem. Let’s don’t forget that those who support those that don’t follow the constitution are also part of the problem.
We can see what you posted earlier:
The full effects of this are yet to be seen.
And since the last census there has been no advantage to either Republican or Democrats.
The constitution is not the problem
It's the constitution that requires all people living in a state to be counted. This isn't some sneaky left wing move brought in over the last few years - it's been in the document since 1788
Liberals that don’t follow the constitution they swore to uphold is the problem.
All states follow the constitution as written. Republican and Democrat alike.
 
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It's the constitution that requires all people living in a state to be counted. This isn't some sneaky left wing move brought in over the last few years - it's been in the document since 1788
The “sneaky “ part is allowing and encouraging illegals to come here in large numbers in violation of current immigration law. The job of the President is to defend the citizens of this country by honoring and defending the Constitution and he has failed. "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Joe Biden and the current crop of liberal leaders has violated :

Section. 4.​

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.” Side note: I am originally from one of the counties in western NC devastated by the flood. FEMA is running out of money because funds have been diverted to benefit illegal aliens. No matter what you are hearing from your news sources on the other side of the world people in these areas are not getting the help from the Federal government they deserve. Every day I hear from people on the ground and people are suffering without food and water and basic necessities while illegals are being housed in hotels and fed. This current administration is a complete failure and the liberal fraud running will be worse.
 
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The “sneaky “ part is...
I think you've lost the thread of the conversation. Perhaps go back a couple of pages and check what the discussion is currently about.
 
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I think you've lost the thread of the conversation. Perhaps go back a couple of pages and check what the discussion is currently about.
It appears the whole thread is off topic. Even your part.
 
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There was a line of discussion. You were involved. I can't help it if you didn't understand what it was about.
Oh I understand. It was all related I can’t help if you can’t see how!
 
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Those that don't want the tax on the upper class return to pre Trump levels.
The upper class already pay the lions share of the taxes collected. This rich should pay their fair share rant is just a liberal talking point designed to gin up anger.
 
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