Does the Bible agree that men and women are equal?

[Soyeong]

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There are some senses in which men and women are equal and some senses in which we are not. While there are some senses in which it is good to fight for equality, such as equality before the law, there are other senses in which equality is overrated. If everyone paid $5,000 in taxes, then there is a sense in which that is equal in paying the same amount, but there is also a sense in which people are not treated equally in paying the same percentage of their income. Or if everyone paid 10% of their income in taxes, then there is a sense that they are equal in paying the same percentage of their income, but not treated equally in paying unequal amounts. People tend to be in favor of equality when it favors us, so those with lower incomes tend to be more in favor of a flat percentage while those with higher incomes tend to be in favor a flat amount, but all in the name of fighting for equality. People who champion equality of outcome as their highest goal rather than equality of opportunity are on a never-ending quest because they will always be able find an angle where the outcome is not equal where they can feel good about themselves for championing its cause, not caring about the damage that they are doing to society in their wake.

 

[Jipsah]

Did you know that God hates bricks?

Lots of hewn ston in the Temple, wasn't there?

 

[Jonaitis]

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In the story of the Garden in Eden, Adam and Eve were one in flesh, and afterward made one together in marriage, indicating that man and woman are equals of their species that function distinct roles. You have the male human and the female human.

 

[SimonPeter111]

I don't think they had human rights then.

Ultimately they can't have thought that much of women, because it was a male orientated society, women had few, or no, rights.
If they had truly believed that women were created by God, as men were, and in his image, as men were - then they would have treated women better.

Are you a supporter of the LGBTQ movement?

 

[SimonPeter111]

If God believes that men and women are equal, then why doesn't He want women to be pastors?
This is the point where I am most confused about the issue of men and women

 

[Strong in Him]

Are you a supporter of the LGBTQ movement?

What's that got to do with it?

 

[Strong in Him]

If God believes that men and women are equal, then why doesn't He want women to be pastors?

He does, and that's why he calls some to do just that.
There are female clergy, and have been for some time.

 

[SimonPeter111]

What's that got to do with it?

There would be LGBTQ Christians It's rare

 

[Strong in Him]

There would be LGBTQ Christians It's rare

Firstly, are you saying that someone who is gay cannot become a Christian? I disagree.
Secondly, what has this got to do with the question of men and women being equal?

 

[SimonPeter111]

Firstly, are you saying that someone who is gay cannot become a Christian? I disagree.
Secondly, what has this got to do with the question of men and women being equal?

I was just curious so I used the word "rare" Don't get me wrong

 

[Strong in Him]

I was just curious so I used the word "rare" Don't get me wrong

No, I'm just trying to understand how this is connected to the question of men and women being equal.

 

[All Becomes New]

Rights are supposed to protect those who cannot protect themselves. Yet here in the USA terminating a pregnancy is considered a right for women, or worse, a "birthing person" as the elites do not want to call people who give birth a woman anymore.

 

[SimonPeter111]

No, I'm just trying to understand how this is connected to the question of men and women being equal.

No contact, I'm just curious, I apologize to you
My English is not very good, maybe my words offended you

 

[Strong in Him]

No contact, I'm just curious, I apologize to you
My English is not very good, maybe my words offended you

No, I wasn't offended.
I was just trying to understand the connection between LGBTQ+ and equality between women and men.

 

[SimonPeter111]

No, I wasn't offended.
I was just trying to understand the connection between LGBTQ+ and equality between women and men.

No connection, I'm just curious

 

[Strong in Him]

No connection, I'm just curious

Ok

 

[Believer000]

It's a bit of a triggering question for liberals. We are equal in the eyes of God. However, we have different roles and purposes. God set the man to have authority as head of the house and church due to Eves sinning as she was the one decieved. As a result, in this world men have more authority but in God's eyes both are equal.

 

[All Becomes New]

If God believes that men and women are equal, then why doesn't He want women to be pastors?
This is the point where I am most confused about the issue of men and women

Because Christ is the goom of the bride.

Ephesians 5:22-33 ESV
“Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body. “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.”

 

[Strong in Him]

We are equal in the eyes of God. However, we have different roles and purposes.

Sometimes, yes; as in giving birth.
But God can call whoever he chooses to serve him - Deborah was an OT judge and Huldah was a prophetess.

God set the man to have authority as head of the house and church due to Eves sinning as she was the one decieved.

It doesn't make sense that a man should be head of the church because Eve was deceived - Adam was downright disobedient. He had heard God's command not to eat the fruit for himself and he went ahead and ate anyway.
Who wants someone who knows God's will, and command, and disobeys?
Why would such a person be the ideal choice to lead the church?

Being head of the house/family is not the same as being called to the role of Pastor/Minister. The latter is a calling, yes; it is also, usually, a paid role. It can be part time, the person can be moved to other churches, they can be promoted, sacked, resign or retire. None of that is true for a husband.

 

[Strong in Him]

Because Christ is the goom of the bride.

Christ's bride is the church, not a vicar.
Church = all Christians.