Did Jesus drink wine?

[tonychanyt]

Yes, Jesus said in Luke 7:

33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’​

Jesus affirmed that he did drink (alcoholic) wine. Some Jews accused him of drinking so much wine that he was drunk.

Furthermore, back then, safe drinking water was not always available. You couldn't always boil the water first. Alcoholic drinks were safer:

Because single-celled microorganisms like bacteria and viruses are primarily composed of water, with fatty proteins suspended within them, alcohol’s amphiphile characteristics make it incredibly effective as a sanitizing agent. Cells exposed to it cannot survive in alcohol’s presence for more than a few minutes.​

Swindoll library:

Because pure drinking water was often unavailable, beer and wine have long been staples of the human diet, including that of Jews and Christians. Wine was used during times of worship, festivals, and celebrations (Numbers 15:10; Luke 22:14–20; John 2:1–11), but was also part of Jewish daily life (Genesis 14:18; Psalm 104:15; Ecclesiastes 10:19). Early Christian monks brewed beer and fermented wine. Martin Luther is recorded to have drunk a gallon of beer a day. And the Pilgrims came to America with kegs of beer.​

 

[BNR32FAN]

Yes, Jesus said in Luke 7:

33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’​

Jesus affirmed that he did drink (alcoholic) wine. Some Jews accused him of drinking so much wine that he was drunk.

Yeah I think people got tired of drinking water all the time and juices wouldn’t survive very long without refrigeration so whenever there was a celebration people would often serve wine since it was a commodity that could be kept unrefrigerated for long periods of time that was preferable to water.

 

[HTacianas]

Yes, Jesus said in Luke 7:

33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’​

Jesus affirmed that he did drink (alcoholic) wine. Some Jews accused him of drinking so much wine that he was drunk.

Yes, Jesus drank wine. Even made wine. And that was accepted without controversy until the rise of the Temperance movement when it became fashionable to condemn the drinking of alcohol. Those who were against alcohol used the bible as an appeal to authority to support their feelings. Before long the bible condemned alcohol. Even though it never did.

 

[tonychanyt]

Yeah I think people got tired of drinking water all the time and juices wouldn’t survive very long without refrigeration so whenever there was a celebration people would often serve wine since it was a commodity that could be kept unrefrigerated for long periods of time that was preferable to water.

Right. Furthermore, safe drinking water was not almost available. Swindoll library:

Because pure drinking water was often unavailable, beer and wine have long been staples of the human diet, including that of Jews and Christians. Wine was used during times of worship, festivals, and celebrations (Numbers 15:10; Luke 22:14–20; John 2:1–11), but was also part of Jewish daily life (Genesis 14:18; Psalm 104:15; Ecclesiastes 10:19). Early Christian monks brewed beer and fermented wine. Martin Luther is recorded to have drunk a gallon of beer a day. And the Pilgrims came to America with kegs of beer.​

 

[public hermit]

Martin Luther is recorded to have drunk a gallon of beer a day

That might explain a thing or two.

Lutheran Insulter

Insults by Martin Luther

ergofabulous.org

 

[Carl Emerson]

To be fair - wine back then was not fortified and the alcohol content was much less than modern day varieties.

I am confident that Jesus never drank in excess.

 

[David Kent]

Yeah I think people got tired of drinking water all the time and juices wouldn’t survive very long without refrigeration so whenever there was a celebration people would often serve wine since it was a commodity that could be kept unrefrigerated for long periods of time that was preferable to water.

Juices would naturally ferment.
New wine would be wine that had not yet fermented. It was put into new skins which would stretch with the fermentation.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Juices would naturally ferment.
New wine would be wine that had not yet fermented. It was put into new skins which would stretch with the fermentation.

Actually they added yeast to new wine to start the fermenting process.

 

[RDKirk]

Actually they added yeast to new wine to start the fermenting process.

It is not absolutely necessary to add yeast to wine. The grapes carry it naturally on their skins. That produces a weakly alcoholic wine, but it's how the process was first discovered and done.

The wine harvest in Israel is in the fall. Passover is in the spring. Unfermented, unrefrigerated, and unpasteurized grape juice lasts only a couple of days before spoiling. The only way the "fruit of the vine" can remain drinkable from fall to spring is if it's been fermented.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Just a side note about wine in Jerusalem.

Residue Analysis Evidence for Wine Enriched With Vanilla Consumed
in Jerusalem on the Eve of the Babylonian Destruction in 586 b.c.e.

Residue analysis evidence for wine enriched with vanilla consumed in Jerusalem on the eve of the Babylonian destruction in 586 BCE

The article presents results of residue analysis, based on Gas Chromatograph Mass Spectrometer (GC-MS) measurements, conducted on 13 ceramic storage jars unearthed in the Babylonian destruction layer (586 BCE) in Jerusalem. Five of the jars bear rosette stamp impressions on their handles...

journals.plos.org

The identification of vanilla was most surprising because
this spice was a rather exotic substance, and

“until recently, was not at all known to be available to
the Old World before the arrival of [Christopher] Columbus.”

The researchers believe the spice was probably imported from the East.
"Archaeological evidence for flavoring wine with exotic spices has
recently begun to accumulate."
.

Seems Jerusalem’s elites enjoyed their wine with a touch of vanilla.
Vanilla is not mentioned specifically in the Bible, the use of wine
certainly is—and notably, spiced wine (i.e. Song of Songs 8:2,
also translated as perfumed wine).

Other wines, such as sweet wine, are also mentioned (Isaiah 49:26).
The prophet Jeremiah, on the scene in Jerusalem at the time of the
city’s fall described the glutted city at the time as being brim-full
of wine- Jeremiah 13:12-14.

 

[David Kent]

Actually they added yeast to new wine to start the fermenting process.

No they didnt. It was only in relatively recent times that yeast has been produced from the natural yeasts.
In wine making you can get different yeasts, such as chardonay, pinot etc., extracted from the various grape varieties

 

[David Kent]

Actually they added yeast to new wine to start the fermenting process.

No they didnt. It was only in relatively recent times that yeast has been produced from the natural yeasts.
In wine making you can get different yeasts, such as chardonay, pinot etc., extracted from the various grape varieties. The only problem with natural yeasts is that you can get wild yeasts that are carried in the air can degrade the wine. Then there can be wine turned into vinegar by being infected by vinegar flies. If the wine is fermented in closed skins that risk is reduced.

Vinegar in English comes from two French words, vin = wine and aigre = sour or bitter.

 

[RileyG]

Grape juice, as we know it, wasn't even possible until the 1800s.
Yes, Jesus drank wine. But he never got drunk.

 

[RileyG]

Right. Furthermore, safe drinking water was not almost available. Swindoll library:

Because pure drinking water was often unavailable, beer and wine have long been staples of the human diet, including that of Jews and Christians. Wine was used during times of worship, festivals, and celebrations (Numbers 15:10; Luke 22:14–20; John 2:1–11), but was also part of Jewish daily life (Genesis 14:18; Psalm 104:15; Ecclesiastes 10:19). Early Christian monks brewed beer and fermented wine. Martin Luther is recorded to have drunk a gallon of beer a day. And the Pilgrims came to America with kegs of beer.​

I believe Martin Luther's wife had her own brewery in the household