Did i accidentally sell my soul

[ssammoh]

First of all, I'm a 15 year old baptist girl.
Second of all, I'm scared!!!

Lately I've been having very bad OCD, which makes me feel very bad since I know God loves me and this is unreasonable.

Recently my mom said she thinks that the author of 50 Shades of Grey sold her soul to the devil. That freaked me out, and I thought about whether or not someone can accidentally sell their soul. An example of something that someone would say to the devil entered my mind for a second. It was COMPLETELY INTRUSIVE, nothing I would EVER say or wish for. Afterwards I prayed to God telling him that I love him so much and I feel very bad about that intrusive thought. I didn't MEAN IT. IT WAS COMPLETELY INTRUSIVE. I would never want ANYTHING from the devil, even if I DIDN'T have to sell my soul to get it. I love God so much and I would never let anything get in the way of that.

A little bit before that, I was having very intrusive and scary blasphemous thoughts. I respect God and Jesus. I love God and Jesus, and I can't even use words to describe how grateful I am that Jesus died for me. I didn't mean any of these. They were completely MEANINGLESS.

Please help me!!! :'(

 

[motherprayer]

I truly believe you are okay, but I understand why you are fearful
I have Aspergers, and it sends some pretty crazy thoughts through my head sometimes.
I really think "selling a soul to the devil" is something that someone would have to be a willing and active participant in, and I'm actually pretty sure it is impossible for a Christian.
When you accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, you accepted Jesus as the price to God for your sins (soul?) And therefore it isn't yours to sell anymore.
Well, someone explained it to me sort of like that once, but they said it better lol and it offered me much comfort.
I hope this helps!

 

[Blackwater Babe]

I'm quite sure you can't accidentally sell your soul to anyone.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Matthew 16:26
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

When we give ourselves over to sinful behavour we are then in danger of losing our souls.

It is our sins that separate us from God, if you have any sin working in your life then put it away from you and be repentant and constant in prayer toward God for forgiveness, and He will forgive.

If you have unclean thoughts, resist, resist, resist, and even rebuke the devil in the name of Jesus and eventually the devil will flee from you. Be strong in your faith, and remember doubt is the strength of the enemy.

Always remember God loves you, ask for His help and guidance in all things. I also will pray for you. Peace.

 

[HollowManJD]

Hello ssammoh,

I just wanted to tell you that I use to have that fear also. It use to scare me a lot until I was reminded of a very familiar chapter in the book of Psalms.

The Lord is my Sheppard; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still water. He restoreth my soul: Psalm 23

Take comfort knowing that if it is indeed possible for someone to sell their soul, that God is merciful, and if you ask him, He is able and willing to restore it to you.

 

[motherprayer]

Take comfort knowing that if it is indeed possible for someone to sell their soul, that God is merciful, and if you ask him, He is able and willing to restore it to you.

These are blessed words. Praise God!

 

[babychrist]

I don't think it's possible to sell your soul. Strictly speaking, it doesn't belong to you, but to God, who has redeemed it. I believe the Lord has redeemed all souls. Does this mean that all will go to heaven? I don't know. I fervently pray they do. But that's ultimately between them and God. But it does mean that Satan (the prince of this world) has been dethroned and cast out.

BC

 

[kodadog1024]

34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died —more than that, who was raised to life —is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[babychrist]

Amen!!!!

34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died —more than that, who was raised to life —is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[gracealone]

Hi Sammoh,
I'm a 55 year old woman with OCD, a Baptist too and I have OCD. I can tell by the language that you use that you do understand that OCD thoughts are unwanted intruders. Smartest thing you said was... they are meaningless. They really are so don't give them any meaning by paying attention to them. As instrusive, they fall out of the realm of our control or our choosing. Soooo... therefore the thought, although it caused a gigantic fear spike because of your OCD needs to be treated as invalid, unimportant and not worth bothering about at all. What happens when you attend to OCD thoughts? They get stronger, more potent and even scarier. So although it's hard you need to completely ignore the thoughts which of course seems like the wrong thing to do because of the fear factor. I'm speaking to you within the context of this being an OCD episode which means I'm trying to be as practical as I know how to be in helping you. I could reassure you with all kinds of truth from scripture, but I have a hunch you already know those scriptures. I also know that the more reassurance you get about an OCD doubt/question the more validity you give it. I've done that lots. It's very hard not to seek reassurance about a thought that seems to threaten your soul and your eternal state with God. I know.. I've had those kind of thoughts too. Have you been taught what to do when you have other kinds of OCD thoughts? If so, you can apply that same knowledge to this one.
Praying for you. I know it feels horrible but you cannot trust your emotional response to these kinds of thoughts... not when you have OCD anyhow.
Mitzi

First of all, I'm a 15 year old baptist girl.
Second of all, I'm scared!!!

Lately I've been having very bad OCD, which makes me feel very bad since I know God loves me and this is unreasonable.

Recently my mom said she thinks that the author of 50 Shades of Grey sold her soul to the devil. That freaked me out, and I thought about whether or not someone can accidentally sell their soul. An example of something that someone would say to the devil entered my mind for a second. It was COMPLETELY INTRUSIVE, nothing I would EVER say or wish for. Afterwards I prayed to God telling him that I love him so much and I feel very bad about that intrusive thought. I didn't MEAN IT. IT WAS COMPLETELY INTRUSIVE. I would never want ANYTHING from the devil, even if I DIDN'T have to sell my soul to get it. I love God so much and I would never let anything get in the way of that.

A little bit before that, I was having very intrusive and scary blasphemous thoughts. I respect God and Jesus. I love God and Jesus, and I can't even use words to describe how grateful I am that Jesus died for me. I didn't mean any of these. They were completely MEANINGLESS.

Please help me!!! :'(

 

[gracealone]

Hi Spirit,
Just wanted to share that firstly OCD is not sinful behavior. It's a real disorder with real treatment options. Same as any other disorder. Second, all OCD thoughts are unchosen by the sufferer, they are actually intrusive, meaningless, unwanted, random thoughts that just pop into the mind on some topic that is near and dear to the sufferer. They can come in the form of a doubt, a question, or even a disgusting thought that goes against everything the individual believes. It's very similar to tourettes, only in OCD we have tics of the mind. Thirdly every person with OCD feels compelled to resist the thoughts, because they are, after all, unwanted and intrusive. But it's the resisting that creates the vicious cycle of the disorder. The resisting or attending to the thoughts in any way shape or form is the compulsive side of the disorder. The more we do it the more stuck the thoughts become into our brain. This is because we are giving them validity by giving them so much attention. The reason we give them so much attention is because we have a misfiring in the anxiety center of our brain which overreacts to the thoughts. It's very hard to ignore that alarm signal. But it's key that we learn to do exactly that or we'll get more deeply and deeply mired in the cycle of the disorder.
Everything that I've written to you falls within the context of treating the very real disorder of OCD. OCD isn't a spiritual problem, it's not bondage to sin, or something that an individual needs to repent of. It's a genetically inherited biochemical disorder in the area of the brain that controls the instinctive fear repsonse. All counsel given to a person who has OCD obsessions must be given with this kind of educated understanding. Counsel that suggests that it's sin, or the fault of the sufferer, or a demonic attack etc. is hurtful and counterproductive to them getting the help they need. I had to share this with you because this young gal is undergoing intense suffering from this form of OCD and I wanted you to understand that she didn't choose it any more than someone chooses hypertension or diabetes. I'm sorry if that is offensive. I don't mean to offend only to shed light on the reality of what OCD really is. Thanks for considering what I've had to say. Also, I'm quite sure your motives were pure in trying to help and I appreciate that too.
Mitzi

Matthew 16:26
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

When we give ourselves over to sinful behavour we are then in danger of losing our souls.

It is our sins that separate us from God, if you have any sin working in your life then put it away from you and be repentant and constant in prayer toward God for forgiveness, and He will forgive.

If you have unclean thoughts, resist, resist, resist, and even rebuke the devil in the name of Jesus and eventually the devil will flee from you. Be strong in your faith, and remember doubt is the strength of the enemy.

Always remember God loves you, ask for His help and guidance in all things. I also will pray for you. Peace.

 

[Leap]

Selling your soul to the devil is a sin.
One of many - we all sin in some way or another.
The fact that we sin is not the problem if we repent of our sin.
So even if you have sold your soul, if you genuinely repent and ask Jesus to forgive you it counts just like every other sin and is forgiven.

Be at peace.

 

[kodadog1024]

I think it's just me, and I've only really been into my Bible for about 2+ years, but no where in the New Testament does say anything about selling your soul... Can anyone back this up? Literal bargaining for your soul....

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Hi Spirit,
Just wanted to share that firstly OCD is not sinful behavior. It's a real disorder with real treatment options. Same as any other disorder. Second, all OCD thoughts are unchosen by the sufferer, they are actually intrusive, meaningless, unwanted, random thoughts that just pop into the mind on some topic that is near and dear to the sufferer. They can come in the form of a doubt, a question, or even a disgusting thought that goes against everything the individual believes. It's very similar to tourettes, only in OCD we have tics of the mind. Thirdly every person with OCD feels compelled to resist the thoughts, because they are, after all, unwanted and intrusive. But it's the resisting that creates the vicious cycle of the disorder. The resisting or attending to the thoughts in any way shape or form is the compulsive side of the disorder. The more we do it the more stuck the thoughts become into our brain. This is because we are giving them validity by giving them so much attention. The reason we give them so much attention is because we have a misfiring in the anxiety center of our brain which overreacts to the thoughts. It's very hard to ignore that alarm signal. But it's key that we learn to do exactly that or we'll get more deeply and deeply mired in the cycle of the disorder.
Everything that I've written to you falls within the context of treating the very real disorder of OCD. OCD isn't a spiritual problem, it's not bondage to sin, or something that an individual needs to repent of. It's a genetically inherited biochemical disorder in the area of the brain that controls the instinctive fear repsonse. All counsel given to a person who has OCD obsessions must be given with this kind of educated understanding. Counsel that suggests that it's sin, or the fault of the sufferer, or a demonic attack etc. is hurtful and counterproductive to them getting the help they need. I had to share this with you because this young gal is undergoing intense suffering from this form of OCD and I wanted you to understand that she didn't choose it any more than someone chooses hypertension or diabetes. I'm sorry if that is offensive. I don't mean to offend only to shed light on the reality of what OCD really is. Thanks for considering what I've had to say. Also, I'm quite sure your motives were pure in trying to help and I appreciate that too.
Mitzi

Sorry if you misunderstood but I was speaking of sin in general,(all sinful behavior) not to the Op's medical condition. But be sure all men must resist the devil, and evil thoughts, no matter what label any man or science may put on a person's condition. The Lord's hand has not waxed short that he cannot heal, and also deliver us from that wicked one who also tries to corrupt our hearts and minds.

 

[HollowManJD]

Wow, that was really well stated InSpiritInTruth. Thank you for the encouraging post. What you said about man made labels makes a lot of sense.

 

[jusme]

Matthew 16:26
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

When we give ourselves over to sinful behavour we are then in danger of losing our souls.

Not as a born again Christian! Whom can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus? For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:38-39.

It is true that sin separates us from God. But, God has reconciled us unto Himself through the life, death and resurection of His Son. For all whom have believed in Him as their personal Lord and Savior, they are no longer under the law, but under grace and God says He remembers our sins no more. Yes, we all sin even after being saved. But, we are not "in sin" but rather, "under grace". You say be in constant prayer tword God for forgiveness. Do you really think there is one person here whom suffers from OCD who has not prayed so much for even the most insignifacant, presumed transgression which was probably no transgression at all, that they could not function at all in their daily life? There is such a thing as compulsive prayer and it is not good.

I'm sorry... but, you obviously no nothing about OCD. You may not even believe it is a real disorder, I dont know. But, the more someone with OCD tries to resist an "unwanted" thought the more prevelant it becomes. Notice, I said "unwanted" thoughts. Dont give the devil the credit for this illness. You speak as if OCD is just oppression by the devil. I can't stress enough that this in NOT true no more that heart disease is a demonic attack! Simple little antidotes like "Be strong in your faith" only suggest to the sufferer that they are weak in their faith. However, faith has nothing to do with it. How can we be strong in our faith anyway? Our faith is not of us. It is a gift from God. He is the author and perfector of our faith. and doubt... ah yes doubt... is it really the strength of the enemy? does telling this young, suffering child that help her in anyway? NO IT DOES NOT. Its as if you are telling her that because of her doubt she is giving the devil strength over her! That is a flat out lie.
OCD is even know as "the doubting disease". Are we OCD suffers doomed to give the devil strength over our minds for all of our life? God forbid! It has nothing to do with the devil or demons thank the Lord. It is merely a medical disorder. Lets not make it something it is not.




now this... this is probably the only thing you should have said here.


I am sorry if I seem harsh tword you. Like gracealone said, I am sure you mean well and you intentions are pure. However, we all need to educate ourselves about illnesses, especially mental illnesses, before we jump into giving those stricken with it advice on what they need to do or not do.

and in closing... I am sure you have heard the saying "No Jesus, No peace... Know Jesus, Know peace" while the first part of this little saying is very true, the second part is not. There are plenty of God fearing, born again Christians out there who are in utter turmoil right now.

Lord God let us not chastise them for hurting... but help us hurt for them! Amen.

 

[jusme]

Sorry if you misunderstood but I was speaking of sin in general,(all sinful behavior) not to the Op's medical condition. But be sure all men must resist the devil, and evil thoughts, no matter what label any man or science may put on a person's condition. The Lord's hand has not waxed short that he cannot heal, and also deliver us from that wicked one who also tries to corrupt our hearts and minds.

Again... you obviously give the devil too much credit here. He is a defeated foe. What this has the potential to do is keep an ill individual from seeking medical help and instead just pray and pray and study the Word and pray, which may seem to be very good advice. In fact it is in most situations in life. But, what if prayer and bible devotions etc are not working in bringing about the physical and mental healing needed in this persons life? Do we then just blame them for having weak faith?

BTW, the Lord has delivered us, whom have trusted Him as Savior, from the wicked one (past tense) and yes, he can heal us from anything. He sometimes uses doctors and medication.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Again... you obviously give the devil too much credit here. He is a defeated foe. What this has the potential to do is keep an ill individual from seeking medical help and instead just pray and pray and study the Word and pray, which may seem to be very good advice. In fact it is in most situations in life. But, what if prayer and bible devotions etc are not working in bringing about the physical and mental healing needed in this persons life? Do we then just blame them for having weak faith?

BTW, the Lord has delivered us, whom have trusted Him as Savior, from the wicked one (past tense) and yes, he can heal us from anything. He sometimes uses doctors and medication.

If you want to lean to your own understanding, and the understanding and council of sinful men that is your choice.

Jeremiah 17:5
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

 

[gracealone]

Hi jusme,
Thank you for providing encouraging insight on the very real disorder of OCD. Although it's upsetting to be accused allowing Satan or sin to have it's way with us.. we with OCD must learn to expect and accept these types of very painful and even harmful accusations. We also must trust that God knows our hearts, He knows our pain. I so appreciate your wise and compassionate counsel and I wanted you to know that today.. I am thanking God for your presence on this forum. I hope you'll stick around. We need folk like you here.
God Bless!!
Mitzi

Again... you obviously give the devil too much credit here. He is a defeated foe. What this has the potential to do is keep an ill individual from seeking medical help and instead just pray and pray and study the Word and pray, which may seem to be very good advice. In fact it is in most situations in life. But, what if prayer and bible devotions etc are not working in bringing about the physical and mental healing needed in this persons life? Do we then just blame them for having weak faith?

BTW, the Lord has delivered us, whom have trusted Him as Savior, from the wicked one (past tense) and yes, he can heal us from anything. He sometimes uses doctors and medication.

 

[gracealone]

Then my advice to you sir, if you are to practice what you preach, would be to advise you to never seek out the counsel of a physician again for any type of physical ailment that you ever become afflicted with. OCD is not about wrong headed thinking or sinful behavior it's a very real, genetically transmitted, neurobiological disorder. This has even been proven via brain scans of those who are afflicted with it. Also the medical interventions by those who have studied the cause and the mangement of it actually do work. Many of us here are living proof of that. Finally... in my own life I can say that OCD has grown me up in my faith... and for that reason I can now, "glory in my affliction in order that the power of Christ may rest more fully upon me - for when I am weak I am strong." It's a purposeful affliction.
Nuff said.
Mitzi

If you want to lean to your own understanding, and the understanding and council of sinful men that is your choice.

Jeremiah 17:5
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.