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So today for the first time, i had to yell at my 7 year old son, well...I probably didn't have to but I did. See, he wanted PaPa Johns pizza and I and my wife wanted to go out to eat. Problem started when we get in front of resturaunt and my son stats crying, so i asked why? Who hurt you? he said no one, i wanted pizza. so I blew p because he cried not being able to get what he wanted, should i have blown up..no, but I did, because he has been doing this for a long time and I HAD ENOUGH! We left resturaunt went home and he had a sandwich and i sent him to bed early...he actually cleaned his room, put away his dish and prayed...after brushing his teeth! WOW, i need to be stern more often.
Then I realized, it wasn't his fault, it was mine! Had i been a little more stern in my teaching him to obey his parents, he knows it's in the bible(we have been teaching him this). I did realise though that everytime he cried about something we would "discuss" it with him and go do what he wanted to do anyway as a way to show if he appologised it was ok...well...I have been wrong! It's hard being a parent but not if we obey OUR parents. My point is not to complain about what my son did, he is sleeping right now and certainly learned his lesson.
My point is that we complain as kids that our parents are strict, overpowering, that they don't understand us(because when we're aged 6-18, we know everything....geeze you think they would get a clue) Some rule with an iron fist, some with a leather belt, i choose to use the bible!...and NO, not to beat him over the head with. There are plenty of versesin the Word Of God about obediance, honoring thy parents and following authority, but do we as Christians follow these teachings? In most cases..no.
If you notice next time your out, those screaming brats in the store throwing a fit because there mother or father wont by them that new Pokemon toy and say "Not my kid!" look at yourself again, and remember to "pull the plank from your own eye before reaching to pull the dust from anothers". Are your children perfect..NO, well...in your eyes they are.
100 years ago all over the world, it was unheard of for a child to disobey or dishonor his or her parents...and if you grew up in an Italian family, like I did...you didn't DARE, you know those giant wooden spoons mother had in the kitchen on the wall for decoration, you know , the gaudy looking 2 foot long wall decor...sorry Americans, but those whee for the rears of a disobeying child...i can still feel it...and i just turned 31.
Over the years parents have started to let ther children tell them what their going to do, over the years we have ids that threaten to call child services if you say "clean your room or else!" WHAT! If i trie that on my mom, she would say "Go ahead bambino, call, by the time they get here i will be out of breath, from woopin your butt!" or "it's hard to use the telephono, when i am using it..to woop your butt!" Am i saying to beat your kids..NO WAY!...well, maybe a little.lol
We as believers and parents have gotten weak. We are all a product of our parents. Should i have yelled at my son, yes and no. I let it go on to long brfore i boiled over and blew up, no i didn't spank him...or use a phone, but i should have done this earlier and went to the bible first. I shouldn't have let it go ths far. He became used to crying to get what he wants and not honoring what his parents are telling him to do. WE ARE THE PARENTS, NOT THEM!
Let me give some examples from the bible.
How to best discipline children can be difficult task to learn, but it is crucially important. Some claim that physical discipline (corporal punishment) such as spanking is the only method the Bible supports. Others insist that “time-outs” and other punishments that do not involve physical discipline are far more effective. What does the Bible say? The Bible teaches that physical discipline is appropriate, beneficial, and necessary.
Do not misunderstand—we are by no means advocating child abuse. A child should never be disciplined physically to the extent that it causes actual physical damage. According to the Bible, though, the appropriate and restrained physical discipline of children is a good thing and contributes to the well-being and correct upbringing of the child.
Many Scriptures do in fact promote physical discipline. “Don't fail to correct your children. They won't die if you spank them. Physical discipline may well save them from death” (Proverbs 23:13-14; see also 13:24; 22:15; 20:30). The Bible strongly stresses the importance of discipline; it is something we must all have in order to be productive people, and it is much more easily learned when we are young. Children who are not disciplined often grow up rebellious, have no respect for authority, and as a result find it difficult to willingly obey and follow God. God Himself uses discipline to correct us and lead us down the right path and to encourage repentance for our wrong actions (Psalm 94:12; Proverbs 1:7; 6:23; 12:1; 13:1; 15:5; Isaiah 38:16; Hebrews 12:9).
In order to apply discipline correctly and according to biblical principles, parents must be familiar with the scriptural advice regarding discipline. The book of Proverbs contains plentiful wisdom regarding the rearing of children, such as, “The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother” (Proverbs 29:15). This verse outlines the consequences of not disciplining a child—the parents are disgraced. Of course, discipline must have as its goal the good of the child and must never be used to justify the abuse and mistreatment of children. Never should it be used to vent anger or frustration.
Discipline is used to correct and train people to go in the right way. “No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it” (Hebrews 12:11). God's discipline is loving, as should it be between parent and child. Physical discipline should never be used to cause lasting physical harm or pain. Physical punishment should always be followed immediately by comforting the child with assurance that he/she is loved. These moments are the perfect time to teach a child that God disciplines us because He loves us and that, as parents, we do the same for our children.
Can other forms of discipline, such as “time-outs,” be used instead of physical discipline? Some parents find that their children do not respond well to physical discipline. Some parents find that “time-outs,” grounding, and/or taking something away from the children is more effective in encouraging behavioral change. If that is indeed the case, by all means, a parent should employ the methods that best produce the needed behavioral change. While the Bible undeniably advocates physical discipline, the Bible is more concerned with the goal of building godly character than it is in the precise method used to produce that goal.
Making this issue even more difficult is the fact that governments are beginning to classify all manner of physical discipline as child abuse. Many parents do not spank their children for fear of being reported to the government and risk having their children taken away. What should parents do if a government has made physical discipline of children illegal? According to Romans 13:1-7, parents should submit to the government. A government should never contradict God’s Word, and physical discipline is, biblically speaking, in the best interest of children. However, keeping children in families in which they will at least receive some discipline is far better than losing children to the “care” of the government.
In Ephesians 6:4, fathers are told not to exasperate their children. Instead, they are to bring them up in God’s ways. Raising a child in the “training and instruction of the Lord” includes restrained, corrective, and, yes, loving physical discipline.
Courtesy of Gotquestions.org.
I don't subscribe to the "time out" method. But i do subscribe to the teachings in the bible, and my own parents. Our parents love us, and want the best for us as well i do for my son ..and future chilren, i want lots!
It has trickled down from rebellion, this weakness, and must be eliminated and parenting by the Word restored. I called my madre(mother) about this today, she siad "it's about time one of you americanised kids realised this,it only took you 20 years, and me a full head of grey hair!" (No offense Americans) I was born here, my madre wasn't. I sometimes think we should take cues from our imigrant parents, if you have them. A strong belief in God, education, and dicipline from them is all they had, and they ruled and taught it with an iron fist.
I will stop now, this is a subject we could go on about for days on end but i won't...until he cries again...or my madre pulls out the "Big wooden spoon".
God be with all of you...especialy you parents...and watch out for that sharp edged toy the kids left next to your bed, you will thank me in the morning for that warning.
God bless.
Then I realized, it wasn't his fault, it was mine! Had i been a little more stern in my teaching him to obey his parents, he knows it's in the bible(we have been teaching him this). I did realise though that everytime he cried about something we would "discuss" it with him and go do what he wanted to do anyway as a way to show if he appologised it was ok...well...I have been wrong! It's hard being a parent but not if we obey OUR parents. My point is not to complain about what my son did, he is sleeping right now and certainly learned his lesson.
My point is that we complain as kids that our parents are strict, overpowering, that they don't understand us(because when we're aged 6-18, we know everything....geeze you think they would get a clue) Some rule with an iron fist, some with a leather belt, i choose to use the bible!...and NO, not to beat him over the head with. There are plenty of versesin the Word Of God about obediance, honoring thy parents and following authority, but do we as Christians follow these teachings? In most cases..no.
If you notice next time your out, those screaming brats in the store throwing a fit because there mother or father wont by them that new Pokemon toy and say "Not my kid!" look at yourself again, and remember to "pull the plank from your own eye before reaching to pull the dust from anothers". Are your children perfect..NO, well...in your eyes they are.
100 years ago all over the world, it was unheard of for a child to disobey or dishonor his or her parents...and if you grew up in an Italian family, like I did...you didn't DARE, you know those giant wooden spoons mother had in the kitchen on the wall for decoration, you know , the gaudy looking 2 foot long wall decor...sorry Americans, but those whee for the rears of a disobeying child...i can still feel it...and i just turned 31.
Over the years parents have started to let ther children tell them what their going to do, over the years we have ids that threaten to call child services if you say "clean your room or else!" WHAT! If i trie that on my mom, she would say "Go ahead bambino, call, by the time they get here i will be out of breath, from woopin your butt!" or "it's hard to use the telephono, when i am using it..to woop your butt!" Am i saying to beat your kids..NO WAY!...well, maybe a little.lol
We as believers and parents have gotten weak. We are all a product of our parents. Should i have yelled at my son, yes and no. I let it go on to long brfore i boiled over and blew up, no i didn't spank him...or use a phone, but i should have done this earlier and went to the bible first. I shouldn't have let it go ths far. He became used to crying to get what he wants and not honoring what his parents are telling him to do. WE ARE THE PARENTS, NOT THEM!
Let me give some examples from the bible.
How to best discipline children can be difficult task to learn, but it is crucially important. Some claim that physical discipline (corporal punishment) such as spanking is the only method the Bible supports. Others insist that “time-outs” and other punishments that do not involve physical discipline are far more effective. What does the Bible say? The Bible teaches that physical discipline is appropriate, beneficial, and necessary.
Do not misunderstand—we are by no means advocating child abuse. A child should never be disciplined physically to the extent that it causes actual physical damage. According to the Bible, though, the appropriate and restrained physical discipline of children is a good thing and contributes to the well-being and correct upbringing of the child.
Many Scriptures do in fact promote physical discipline. “Don't fail to correct your children. They won't die if you spank them. Physical discipline may well save them from death” (Proverbs 23:13-14; see also 13:24; 22:15; 20:30). The Bible strongly stresses the importance of discipline; it is something we must all have in order to be productive people, and it is much more easily learned when we are young. Children who are not disciplined often grow up rebellious, have no respect for authority, and as a result find it difficult to willingly obey and follow God. God Himself uses discipline to correct us and lead us down the right path and to encourage repentance for our wrong actions (Psalm 94:12; Proverbs 1:7; 6:23; 12:1; 13:1; 15:5; Isaiah 38:16; Hebrews 12:9).
In order to apply discipline correctly and according to biblical principles, parents must be familiar with the scriptural advice regarding discipline. The book of Proverbs contains plentiful wisdom regarding the rearing of children, such as, “The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother” (Proverbs 29:15). This verse outlines the consequences of not disciplining a child—the parents are disgraced. Of course, discipline must have as its goal the good of the child and must never be used to justify the abuse and mistreatment of children. Never should it be used to vent anger or frustration.
Discipline is used to correct and train people to go in the right way. “No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it” (Hebrews 12:11). God's discipline is loving, as should it be between parent and child. Physical discipline should never be used to cause lasting physical harm or pain. Physical punishment should always be followed immediately by comforting the child with assurance that he/she is loved. These moments are the perfect time to teach a child that God disciplines us because He loves us and that, as parents, we do the same for our children.
Can other forms of discipline, such as “time-outs,” be used instead of physical discipline? Some parents find that their children do not respond well to physical discipline. Some parents find that “time-outs,” grounding, and/or taking something away from the children is more effective in encouraging behavioral change. If that is indeed the case, by all means, a parent should employ the methods that best produce the needed behavioral change. While the Bible undeniably advocates physical discipline, the Bible is more concerned with the goal of building godly character than it is in the precise method used to produce that goal.
Making this issue even more difficult is the fact that governments are beginning to classify all manner of physical discipline as child abuse. Many parents do not spank their children for fear of being reported to the government and risk having their children taken away. What should parents do if a government has made physical discipline of children illegal? According to Romans 13:1-7, parents should submit to the government. A government should never contradict God’s Word, and physical discipline is, biblically speaking, in the best interest of children. However, keeping children in families in which they will at least receive some discipline is far better than losing children to the “care” of the government.
In Ephesians 6:4, fathers are told not to exasperate their children. Instead, they are to bring them up in God’s ways. Raising a child in the “training and instruction of the Lord” includes restrained, corrective, and, yes, loving physical discipline.
Courtesy of Gotquestions.org.
I don't subscribe to the "time out" method. But i do subscribe to the teachings in the bible, and my own parents. Our parents love us, and want the best for us as well i do for my son ..and future chilren, i want lots!
It has trickled down from rebellion, this weakness, and must be eliminated and parenting by the Word restored. I called my madre(mother) about this today, she siad "it's about time one of you americanised kids realised this,it only took you 20 years, and me a full head of grey hair!" (No offense Americans) I was born here, my madre wasn't. I sometimes think we should take cues from our imigrant parents, if you have them. A strong belief in God, education, and dicipline from them is all they had, and they ruled and taught it with an iron fist.
I will stop now, this is a subject we could go on about for days on end but i won't...until he cries again...or my madre pulls out the "Big wooden spoon".
God be with all of you...especialy you parents...and watch out for that sharp edged toy the kids left next to your bed, you will thank me in the morning for that warning.
God bless.