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Daniel 3:25 who was the Fourth man in the fire?

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24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
Who was the fourth man? The Son of GOD? and why did he stay in the Fire? Why was he in the fire in the First place?
Did the Son of GOD end up in the Fire?
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The fourth man was an angel of God, most likely.

It is Nebechadnezzar that says "Son of God" (KJV) Since Nebuchadnezzar held belief in other gods, it is rather unlikely that he was referring to the Son of God (ie. Jesus Christ) but rather meant a man from the gods.
 
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ChrisLockhart said:
The fourth man was an angel of God, most likely.

It is Nebechadnezzar that says "Son of God" (KJV) Since Nebuchadnezzar held belief in other gods, it is rather unlikely that he was referring to the Son of God (ie. Jesus Christ) but rather meant a man from the gods.
but this Son of GOD is in capital the same one referred to as Jesus,Why could it not be ascribed to Jesus?why all other places where the son of GOD with a capital is mentioned it is always used a sproof that jesus was the Son of GOD.Now here a Christian is denying that this Son of GOD is Jesus.I wonder why.
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S Walch said:
Daniel 3
25 "Look!" Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire. They aren't even hurt by the flames! And the fourth looks like a divine being[1] !"

[1]3:25 Aramaic like a son of the gods.
Not in my Bbile version it doesn't.the KJV says SON of GOD. But they were quick to change it to sons (with a smal s) of the GODs in the NIV and RSV,Why the change?
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caller_to_truth said:
24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
Who was the fourth man? The Son of GOD? and why did he stay in the Fire? Why was he in the fire in the First place?
Did the Son of GOD end up in the Fire?
Have a nice day:D
I agree with Chris. The fourth was probably an angel and who said he stayed in the fire. The NASB says .25 He answered and said, "Look! I see four men loosed and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods!" The king James said he had the appearance of the son of God and the NASB says he looked like the son of the gods. The king James didn't say he was the son of God and the NASB didn't say he was a son of the gods, but he looked like he could be. Since nobody knows what the true God looks like nebachannzzar had to be talking about his gods. The fourth man looked like he could have been a son to nebachanezzars gods. I think that was to make an impression on Nebuchanezzar because God uses him. Did you read these verses?
26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
29 Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.
30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.
4:1 Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
2 I thought it good to show the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me.
3 How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation. Then he has a series of dreams in which he sees the whole span of human history, or at least a large part of it, I think God knows what He's doing.
 
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The fourth one that looked like an angel is, I believe, a gardian angel sent by God to look after those 3 people in the firey pit.

Jesus didn't exist before he was born, Christ did. Christ means Messiah in Hebrew. Jesus was the name God gave him as a man of flesh. I don't think it was a Christ in with them but definitely some gardian.
 
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caller_to_truth said:
but this Son of GOD is in capital the same one referred to as Jesus,Why could it not be ascribed to Jesus?why all other places where the son of GOD with a capital is mentioned it is always used a sproof that jesus was the Son of GOD.Now here a Christian is denying that this Son of GOD is Jesus.I wonder why.
peace:D

Nebuchadnezzar's words hold not authority, especially concerning God.. and Nebuchadnezzar would certainly have nothing worthwhile to say about Jesus, who still had about six centuries before arriving.
 
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The fourth man in the fire was the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. In the OT, He also appeared to Hagar, Joshua, and Samson's parents. In these texts, He's referred to as the Angel of the Lord. He can only be Jesus since He always accepted the worship of humans.
 
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ChrisLockhart said:
Nebuchadnezzar's words hold not authority, especially concerning God.. and Nebuchadnezzar would certainly have nothing worthwhile to say about Jesus, who still had about six centuries before arriving.
Though Nebuchadnezzar is quoted in the text, since it's part of the OT canon, his words must have been correct. Also, don't forget that even Nebuchadnezzar gave praise to the God of Israel after seven years of eating grass in the field.
 
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jlujan69 said:
The fourth man in the fire was the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. In the OT, He also appeared to Hagar, Joshua, and Samson's parents. In these texts, He's referred to as the Angel of the Lord. He can only be Jesus since He always accepted the worship of humans.
So the Son of GOD(here with a capital S) was seen in the fire long before he was born. Or shall we say tht Jesus was not the Son of God since this tiltle was already used in the past for other people so why should it apply to Jesus alone.This is why they quickly chnged it in the new translations to a small s and add a s to the God cause it is highlyu embarassing to have the Son Of GOD in the fire now isn't it.No body has explained to me about the change.When i say that ther is corruption in the bbile you lot hurry to deny.Here they have changed Son of God to make it son of Gods two different things just with one letter.This has change the meaning completely.Son of God in capital s is only attributed to Jesus.so take him out of the fire quickly and drop the son of GODs in any other gods as long as it is not Jesus.
it is clear.
peace:D
 
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caller_to_truth said:
So the Son of GOD(here with a capital S) was seen in the fire long before he was born. Or shall we say tht Jesus was not the Son of God since this tiltle was already used in the past for other people so why should it apply to Jesus alone.This is why they quickly chnged it in the new translations to a small s and add a s to the God cause it is highlyu embarassing to have the Son Of GOD in the fire now isn't it.No body has explained to me about the change.When i say that ther is corruption in the bbile you lot hurry to deny.Here they have changed Son of God to make it son of Gods two different things just with one letter.This has change the meaning completely.Son of God in capital s is only attributed to Jesus.so take him out of the fire quickly and drop the son of GODs in any other gods as long as it is not Jesus.
it is clear.
peace:D
This part of Daniel was originally written in aramaic. The Targum speaks of `bar-elahin`(plural) which means "a son of the gods", however in Hebrew plural `elohim` is almost always used for "God", even though its actually plural! In Aramaic portition of the OT, the plural `elahin` is used always to denote gods, not THE God.
The Greek translation speaks of "aggelou theou", which means either "a messenger of God" or "a messenger of a god". In my own view, the angel was Jesus in a previous life.
 
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