Consultation on the nomination of the 106th Archbishop of Canterbury

[Carl Emerson]

OK no problem...

I do not understand what you are getting at. If you wish to explain a little more, perhaps I could?

From what I understand the invitation to submit on the required credentials for the new Archbishop is not limited to persons within the See of Canterbury.

To me this is a very gracious move given that GAFCON has more following Anglican traditions than Canterbury by a mile.

Every Sunday we pray for the Church Universal not just our own denomination.

I believe it is very important to be careful how we 'divide the Body of Christ' as Paul stated in Corinthians.

 

[RamiC]

OK no problem...


From what I understand the invitation to submit on the required credentials for the new Archbishop is not limited to persons within the See of Canterbury.

To me this is a very gracious move given that GAFCON has more following Anglican traditions than Canterbury by a mile.

Every Sunday we pray for the Church Universal not just our own denomination.

I believe it is very important to be careful how we 'divide the Body of Christ' as Paul stated in Corinthians.

I am sorry, I was being a bit ungracious if you are right.

I would be surprised if they are going beyong the AC, but if they are, I do not mind. Perhaps they are trying to reunify us.

 

[Paidiske]

From what I understand the invitation to submit on the required credentials for the new Archbishop is not limited to persons within the See of Canterbury.

To me this is a very gracious move given that GAFCON has more following Anglican traditions than Canterbury by a mile.

Ah. I think there is a misunderstanding here.

The "See of Canterbury" is the geographical area in England for which the Archbishop of Canterbury is directly responsible.

What has been invited, is input from Anglicans in communion with Canterbury, from other parts of England and the world. So people for whom the Archbishop of Canterbury is a significant leader within their own church, even though they are in a place where they have a different bishop directly responsible for their oversight.

They are not inviting input from people claiming an Anglican heritage, who have left that church to start their own, separate, denominational bodies, which have no formal relationship with the Archbishop of Canterbury.

GAFCON is weird in that it is a movement of people, some of whom are in communion with Canterbury, and some of whom are not. They are not seeking input from those who are not in communion with Canterbury.

 

[RamiC]

Ah. I think there is a misunderstanding here.

The "See of Canterbury" is the geographical area in England for which the Archbishop of Canterbury is directly responsible.

Global role of the Archbishop of Canterbury​

The Archbishop of Canterbury has a global leadership role in the Anglican Communion of churches. The Anglican Communion includes all 39 provinces in communion with the See of Canterbury. https://www.anglicancommunion.org/structures/instruments-of-communion/archbishop-of-canterbury.aspx

Sorry, got it now "in communion with" not "under". Thank you Paidiske

 

[Carl Emerson]

Global role of the Archbishop of Canterbury​

The Archbishop of Canterbury has a global leadership role in the Anglican Communion of churches. The Anglican Communion includes all 39 provinces in communion with the See of Canterbury. https://www.anglicancommunion.org/structures/instruments-of-communion/archbishop-of-canterbury.aspx

Sorry, got it now "in communion with" not "under". Thank you Paidiske

Mmmm... appreciate the correction - a flicker of hope snuffed out.

Back here on NZ the Anglicans and the CCA (under GAFCON) share the same bible college.

Divisions in the body are very sad and deeply concerning.

 

[RamiC]

Divisions in the body are very sad and deeply concerning.

In Anglicanism there always was diversity.

It began in England to prevent civil war, when half the country wanted to be as close to Roman Catholic as possible, and half wanted to go totally Reformed.

 

[RamiC]

The Religious Settlement was an attempt by Elizabeth I to unite the country after the changes in religion under Henry VIII, Edward VI and Mary I. It was designed to settle the divide between Catholics and Protestants and address the differences in services and beliefs. The settlement itself was written out in two Acts of Parliament, the Act of Supremacy and the Act of Uniformity 1559.

Early Elizabethan England (1558-1588): Religious Settlement


Queen Elizabeth I wanted to build a stable, peaceful nation with a strong government, free from the influence of foreign powers in matters of the church and the state. To realise this vision it was necessary to reach a new religious settlement that was as inclusive as possible. Changes needed to be introduced with a minimum of confrontation in order to overcome fear and suspicion at home and abroad.

The choice of state religion would have political consequences, whatever the decision. Choosing to remain Catholic would surrender power to Rome and ally England with other Catholic states, such as France and Spain. Returning to Protestantism would align England with the Dutch, its main trading partner, but risked antagonising Spain, the most powerful nation in the world. Protestantism would also create a fear of persecution among England’s Catholics.

Elizabeth I's religious settlement