Church used to quote OT for tithe offering

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Many churches used to quote OT for tithe offering.
Is that right?
Believing in a religion is equivalent to give money?
No give 10% means disobedient to God?

How about the church?
Many churches never disclose its accounting record (balance sheet).
The took money and did not do charity to help poor members in church or in the society.
They even look down upon poor christians.
They dare to say poor christians are poor because they did not give tithe and get no financial blessing from God ; this is how they interpret Bible.

Many protestant churches do not have Sacrament of Anointing The Sick.
They manipulate Bible verses to force people to pay tithe.
They do not care about preaching the correct biblical messages to enhance people's spiritual maturity.
But the only emphasize on collecting tithe.

 

[Tranquil Bondservant]

2 Corinthians 9:6-7 deal with this issue quite well.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

I was advised by a Reformed Church's pastor not to give any money to charismatic churches because they are heresy.
It is like giving money to Jehovah Witnesses.

 

[Tolworth John]

I don't know anything about laws in yiour country.
Here in the uk churches can register as a charity. They gain various tax breaks etc, but as a result have to produce annual accounts and have at least an annual members meeting where members can ask questions about the finances, procedures etc etc and get answers.

May I suggest you talk to your minister about your concerns for open and honest accountablity by the church.
May I suggest you ask this to as many ministers as you know and think about moving to what ever church has the most open accountability to its membrs.

 

[Unqualified]

We give 10% it is our choice. Giving is to show you love God more than money. It should be given to support your churches work, like missions or helping the poor or feeding the poor, etc. it sounds like your church is supporting your ministers. It sounds like a form of the prosperity doctrine where they hide reports of where the money goes. I would run to a more godly church that you can trust.

 

[eleos1954]

Many churches used to quote OT for tithe offering.
Is that right?
Believing in a religion is equivalent to give money?
No give 10% means disobedient to God?

How about the church?
Many churches never disclose its accounting record (balance sheet).
The took money and did not do charity to help poor members in church or in the society.
They even look down upon poor christians.
They dare to say poor christians are poor because they did not give tithe and get no financial blessing from God ; this is how they interpret Bible.

Many protestant churches do not have Sacrament of Anointing The Sick.
They manipulate Bible verses to force people to pay tithe.
They do not care about preaching the correct biblical messages to enhance people's spiritual maturity.
But the only emphasize on collecting tithe.

2 Corinthians 9:6-7

The Cheerful Giver

6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Theory is easy, but when put theory into practice, you need to discern.
Like it is good to have compassion on beggars and give them some money,
but there are also beggar syndicate that manipulate many beggars to collect money from them.
They scam you with beggars.

Not every church is good, many take and keep the money and ignoring the needy people in church, has no compassion, no caring, why give money to this type of church?

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

There are many financial scandal in churches, money was not used properly to help needy people, the management of church took the money to give themselves big salary.
And they preach heresy in church.
The do fake miracles to bewilder and mislead people.

As a Christian who is faithful to God, we must not give money to the wrong church.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Only the government has right to incur tax on your income, it is not church to force you to pay tax 10%.

 

[Cornelius8L]

OT tithes are not money. It is about sharing foods and we can even eat our offered tithes. Deuteronomy 14:24-26 says giving tithes is to change the money into food, then eat with your friends before God. Even Malachi 3:10 is mentioning about food.

Deuteronomy 14
22You must be sure to set aside a tenth of all the produce brought forth each year from your fields. 23And you are to eat a tenth of your grain, new wine, and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks, in the presence of the LORD your God at the place He will choose as a dwelling for His Name, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

24But if the distance is too great for you to carry that with which the LORD your God has blessed you, because the place where the LORD your God will choose to put His Name is too far away, 25then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household. 27And do not neglect the Levite within your gates, since he has no portion or inheritance among you.

28At the end of every three years, bring a tenth of all your produce for that year and lay it up within your gates. 29Then the Levite (because he has no portion or inheritance among you), the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied. And the LORD your God will bless you in all the work of your hands.​

So instead of "storing" money in the church bank account, I spend 10% feasting/helping my church friends “For where two or three are gathered together unto My name, there am I in their midst (Matthew 18:20)."

The instruction of the tithe is to eat/share/help. Not store, and then unwilling to share/help.

 

[Marumorose]

Many churches used to quote OT for tithe offering.
Is that right?
Believing in a religion is equivalent to give money?
No give 10% means disobedient to God?

How about the church?
Many churches never disclose its accounting record (balance sheet).
The took money and did not do charity to help poor members in church or in the society.
They even look down upon poor christians.
They dare to say poor christians are poor because they did not give tithe and get no financial blessing from God ; this is how they interpret Bible.

Many protestant churches do not have Sacrament of Anointing The Sick.
They manipulate Bible verses to force people to pay tithe.
They do not care about preaching the correct biblical messages to enhance people's spiritual maturity.
But the only emphasize on collecting tithe.

May God Bless You. We have to give or donate to keep the church organised and in order and to help each other. The problem is when the money is mismanaged.

 

[Cornelius8L]

OT tithes are not money. It is about sharing foods and we can even eat our offered tithes. Deuteronomy 14:24-26 says giving tithes is to change the money into food, then eat with your friends before God. Even Malachi 3:10 is mentioning about food.

Deuteronomy 14
22You must be sure to set aside a tenth of all the produce brought forth each year from your fields. 23And you are to eat a tenth of your grain, new wine, and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks, in the presence of the LORD your God at the place He will choose as a dwelling for His Name, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

24But if the distance is too great for you to carry that with which the LORD your God has blessed you, because the place where the LORD your God will choose to put His Name is too far away, 25then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household. 27And do not neglect the Levite within your gates, since he has no portion or inheritance among you.

28At the end of every three years, bring a tenth of all your produce for that year and lay it up within your gates. 29Then the Levite (because he has no portion or inheritance among you), the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied. And the LORD your God will bless you in all the work of your hands.​

So instead of "storing" money in the church bank account, I spend 10% feasting/helping my church friends “For where two or three are gathered together unto My name, there am I in their midst (Matthew 18:20)."

The instruction of the tithe is to eat/share/help. Not store, and then unwilling to share/help.

And think about it. Letting the church organizations manage the tithes instead of ourselves sharing and helping, isn’t it a form of laziness? God could instruct the people in Deuteronomy 14:22-29 to give 10% money and let Levites manage everything, but He did not. I don’t think churches should use OT to ask for tithes. At best, they can only use 2 Corinthians 9:7.