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Christians should support Israel to eradicate its enemies

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Hamas, Hezbollah, tyranny of Iran, should be eradicated, Satan is behind them to attack and kill the people of God.
US, Nato should support Israel strongly.
I don't think you have any idea how long the present conflict has been escalating and what's really going on. It has for more than a decade.

And both sides are at fault.

If you're wishing that the enemies of the people of God (including Christians) be eradicated, then you're also asking for the annihilation of Israel.

If Israel is blameless, then USA wouldn't be in a very difficult position of supplying arms to Israel. USA wants negotiations instead because USA knows Israel is every bit as guilty as Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.

If USA is supporting a guilty party, it stands the risk of terrorist attacks within its territory.

You don't support a nation committing evil and killing both the guilty and the innocent in a war that it helped started.
 
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Israel does not purposely attack Christians.
Their enemies are those from the most extreme religions.
They intend to kill the Elect.

Israel also considers Jesus as its enemy.

And Israel throughout the Bible's history have killed the elect.

You should read the Bible more.
 
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In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”

(Isaiah 19:23-25)
 
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Christians should support Israel to eradicate its enemies... Satan is behind them to attack and kill the people of God
No. Christians should support peace and justice. We do not take any sides. When Israel does horrible things, we must not support it. When Iran does horrible things, we must not support it. When USA or NATO does horrible things, we must not support it. When Russia... etc.

We are on the Christ's side, not on the Jewish or American or EU or Chinese or Russian or Muslim side. Various nations do various things in various times, some good and some bad.

No today's nation, race or ethnicity is "the people of God" and none is "the people of Satan". Thats a terribly dangerous and fanatic talk, leading to pogroms, ethnic cleansing, religious wars and many historic injustices.
 
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We should not take an equal stance between the victim and the perpetrator.
Israel is right in its war against Hamas and right to attack Hezbollah.
If anything, they showed remarkable patience with the Palestinians who are hell-bent on destroying them.
As the saying goes "if the Arabs lay down their weapons, there will be peace; if Israel lays down its weapons, there will be slaughter".
 
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No. Christians should support peace and justice. We do not take any sides. When Israel does horrible things, we must not support it. When Iran does horrible things, we must not support it. When USA or NATO does horrible things, we must not support it. When Russia... etc.

We are on the Christ's side, not on the Jewish or American or EU or Chinese or Russian or Muslim side. Various nations do various things in various times, some good and some bad.

No today's nation, race or ethnicity is "the people of God" and none is "the people of Satan". Thats a terribly dangerous and fanatic talk, leading to pogroms, ethnic cleansing, religious wars and many historic injustices.

The OP is fearing religious extremism when he's displaying the same behavior.

Dropping bombs on enemies from 40,000 ft is not any different from someone blowing themselves up in a crowded space.

Ironically, 2000 lb metal bombs kill way more people and demolishes buildings.
 
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We should not take an equal stance between the victim and the perpetrator.
Israel is right in its war against Hamas and right to attack Hezbollah.
If anything, they showed remarkable patience with the Palestinians who are hell-bent on destroying them.
As the saying goes "if the Arabs lay down their weapons, there will be peace; if Israel lays down its weapons, there will be slaughter".

That's understandable because you didn't know what Israel is doing to the Palestinians for many years before the Hamas attack.
 
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We should not take an equal stance between the victim and the perpetrator.
Israel is right in its war against Hamas and right to attack Hezbollah.
If anything, they showed remarkable patience with the Palestinians who are hell-bent on destroying them.
As the saying goes "if the Arabs lay down their weapons, there will be peace; if Israel lays down its weapons, there will be slaughter".
The situation around the state of Israel is much more complicated than what you present. Israel is no angel.
 
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The OP is fearing religious extremism when he's displaying the same behavior.

Dropping bombs on enemies from 40,000 ft is not any different from someone blowing themselves up in a crowded space.

Ironically, 2000 lb metal bombs kill way more people and demolishes buildings.
Well, the international courts and bodies should do their job and collect evidence and make decisions. Thats their purpose, why we created them.
 
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Well, the international courts and bodies should do their job and collect evidence and make decisions. Thats their purpose, why we created them.
What Israel is doing is not sanctioned by the international courts when civilian deaths started multiplying. In fact it is opposed to the actions of Israel. Even USA is opposed verbally and would have employed a different tactic (but they have no choice but to support Israel anyway).

US preferred the negotiations table and ground and covert operations instead of indiscriminate bombing campaign from the air. Could have resulted to higher deaths from their own troops but would prevent further escalation of the conflict and greatly minimize civilian casualties and collateral damage.

Israel is highly capable of conducting covert ops but their choice of indiscriminate bombing, many are speculating, it was the plan from the start to destroy infrastructure as well to discourage re-settlement by the Palestinians. An attempt to drive them away permanently.
 
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Hamas, Hezbollah, tyranny of Iran, should be eradicated, Satan is behind them to attack and kill the people of God.
US, Nato should support Israel strongly.

I never understand why we should support Israel, while jews hate Jesus. The Talmud even says that He should be thrown in a put with burning dog feces and suffer there for eteneral.

Often jews literally spit on Christians in Israel and those jews that decide to follow Jesus get placed outside of the society (no possibility to work etc).

I am not saying we should support gaza/hamas either. Arabs also never have been our friends if you know history a bit (and current affairs).
 
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The unbelief of Jews will not last forever (Romans 11:25).
In the meantime, the words of God still hold: I will bless those who bless you (Abraham) and curse those who curse you.
It was a miracle that brought Israel back to life (can a nation be born in a day?) and Israel remains in God's plan.
 
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