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Can Christians buy Forex and do Binary Trading?

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Can Christians buy Forex and do Binary Trading?
You know, it can be an easy way to make money, if you invest carefully.

Does God allow us to do this?
Or God wants us to work from 8 to 5 to earn an honest penny?

Can we trade Bitcoin/God/Forex?
Is it unethical?
 

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Investing is fine, but it's not the right tool for making money short-term. God wouldn't have us consumed every day with what the market is going to do, trying to be on the right side of this trend or that trend we may read about. That consumes some people, he wouldn't have us consumed by that. The smart way to invest I find is compatible with Christianity - put it in a mutual fund with someone else managing it, check in on it a few times a year, and trust the Lord to handle the rest.
 
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Can Christians use Bitcoin to trade?
Yes, but if you're going to mine them, you have to take into account the cost of hardware and power for that hardware vs the amount you're actually generating. The more Bitcoins that are created, the more computational power is necessary to mine new ones.
 
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Can Christians buy Forex and do Binary Trading?
You know, it can be an easy way to make money, if you invest carefully.

Does God allow us to do this?
Or God wants us to work from 8 to 5 to earn an honest penny?

Can we trade Bitcoin/God/Forex?
Is it unethical?

I think that there is a huge difference between long term investing and short term investing.

In any type of investment, there is always the tradeoff of risk versus gain. The more risk, the more *possible* gain (and the more possible loss). The less risk, the less possible gain. There are very few (if any) short term "investment" opportunities promising large returns that don't involve significant risk. There are a lot of people with a lot of money that hire a lot of very smart people to do the research for them to get ahead of everyone else. In my opinion, some of this is getting closer to going to the casino and gambling than it is investing. I've got a PhD in physics and have spent a career cranking numbers and programming. I looked at short term stuff a bit figuring I might be able to leverage my background and skills to get ahead of the game. My sense is that I would have ended up spending more time doing the proper research and work to get ahead than I would actually having a real job. I am a person who is risk averse so potentially I walked away from something I could have somewhat succeeded at. However, I'm not convinced it's easy money. My sense is a lot more people lose money at it than gain money.

There's a mathematical theorem often colloquially referred to as the gambler's ruin. It roughly says that given any random process you will hit every point. In other words, if you are gambling, you will eventually win a million dollars. However!!!!, it also means that you will hit zero dollars as well. If you walk in with $10K, you are far more likely to first hit zero (and lose it all) than you are to reach $1M. On the other hand, if you walk in with $900K, you have a much better chance to hit $1M before hitting zero. The bottom line why casinos make money is that they have larger reserves than the gamblers do. A gambler with $10K will hit zero with a much greater probability than a casino with tens to hundreds of millions in reserve will hit zero. Investment firms with huge cash reserves can last in the short term investment game a lot longer than smaller investors (whose money stays in the game for other people to collect after they hit zero). Unless you have a true "system" of research that significantly stacks the odds in your favor, gambling is likely to be a net losing proposition in the long run. The only way to come out ahead gambling is if you have an initial lucky streak and completely quit and cash out while you are ahead.

Money is really about your time. You have a finite amount of time. It is about having an efficient way of converting your time into what you want from life. We all choose to convert part of our time into money so that we can buy things we want and need. The key is balancing how much time we convert to money with how much time we spend doing other things. It's about setting priorities as to what is important to us.

Frankly, starting a successful business (which takes a lot of time, effort, initial research, and often resources) is probably the best way to make a lot of money and is a way to do something good for other people at the same time. It's also risky. Most new businesses fail. You really need to be willing to do a LOT of work to make a new business work and that includes learning a LOT about what it takes to successfully run a business before you start.
 
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I think trading forex and commodities is equivalent to buying stocks in the market.
it is basically buy low sell high.
Ethically, can a Christian do this kind of trading?

My question is: Do Christians only have to work from 8 to 5 to earn a salary?
Or can Christians earn money in Wallstreet by using trading tools?
 
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If you are working a 9 to 5 with putting in extra time or bringing work home or worrying about work outside of work, ignoring your family/friends/ church for work obligations are you being consumed by work? As long as you are able to do it , make a living, and not become consumed by it (as with any other job), I don't think it's a problem morally or ethically. Following markets is work and it will take time to put into it each day. If you are able to earn and put in the same hours as a regular job and earn the same or more, then it's a different kind of work but basically the same idea as a job. Have rules for yourself and follow them and don't be led by greed. Learn how to manage risk and losses and be willing to learn and apply so that a loss won't mean a wipeout. And always diversify never put all your capital into one thing. It's not money that is the root of all evil; it's the love of money that is the root of all evil. Keep yourself in check.
 
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I think trading forex and commodities is equivalent to buying stocks in the market.
it is basically buy low sell high.
Ethically, can a Christian do this kind of trading?

My question is: Do Christians only have to work from 8 to 5 to earn a salary?
Or can Christians earn money in Wallstreet by using trading tools?
If you don't have advanced knowledge of when a stock is going to peak and fall, yes. Insider trading the way I see it, is akin to swindling.
 
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Can we trade Bitcoin/God/Forex?
Is it unethical?
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Bear in mind that Trading Markets are opened to manipulation by "gangsters" or colluders, eg the Freemasons. Their modus operandi is to "buy low and sell high". How.? ...

They gang up or collude to bring about a market crash. They pick up billions of shares at low prices. They gradually drive up the price of shares over a period of many years while unloading small portions of their hoard of shares. They sell off most of their hoard of shares at high prices during the peak of the market. Then they bring about another market crash and repeat the cycle.
... Notice that the NY Dow Jones Stock Market has crashed in ... 1929, .... 1972, 1985, 1997, 2008, ie about once every 10-15 years. So, the next Stock Market crash should be due in the next 1-5 years. Only the "gangsters"/colluders know the exact date of the crash = they are like the god of the Stock Market.

Why 10-15 years.? Gullible people won't buy shares if the Stock Market crashes every 2-5 years since most people will still remember the previous crash. IOW, people have short memory. New and young workers/professionals are especially gullible and naive.

So, best for us to avoid Trading Markets, save more of our money in banks, buy own homes and property and to prepare ourselves for the recession that will always follow after a Stock Market crash, eg pick up cheap homes during the recession.
 
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every normal human being wants to have more money. :)
is it ok to trade oil and gold, i think it is not wrong.
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There are lawful and unlawful way to have more money. For most people, it's through hard work and good customer service. Market trading is based on greed and speculation/gambling, ie winners "stealing" money from the losers.

Any commodity market is also opened to manipulation.

Eg in 2015, Shia Iran flooded the world market with oil to depress the oil price, in order to reduce the oil revenue of Sunni Saudi Arabia who was secretly sponsoring the Sunni ISIS terrorists in Iraq and Syria against the Shia Iraqi government and Shia Syrian dictator Basheer Assad. President Obama backed the Sunni Saudis against the Shias. Lebanon's Shia Hezbollah also came to the aid of Basheer Assad. The tide changed when Trump became the President in Jan 2017 = Saudi-backed Sunni ISIS lost ground.
... That is why the Saudi kingdom recently forced Lebanon's Sunni PM Hariri to resign because Hariri did not curtailed the Hezbollahs.
... Similarly for the war in Yemen.

In general, gold and property are a safe harbour for your money, especially during times of economic uncertainty or recession, compared to stocks, cash or bank accounts. So, gold price will rise during such times. For millionaires, they should diversify their assets.
 
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How can we say Stock market is "greedy"?
Human could be greedy, but not the stock market.
A good company like Apple, its stock will rise because the company makes more profit,
if u invest in Apple 10 years ago, now you can reap profits.
It is not greedy at all.
 
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Can Christians buy Forex and do Binary Trading?
You know, it can be an easy way to make money, if you invest carefully.

Does God allow us to do this?
Or God wants us to work from 8 to 5 to earn an honest penny?

Can we trade Bitcoin/God/Forex?
Is it unethical?

Trading foreign currency to make income generally isn’t a good idea. Global currencies are unstable and fluctuate a lot. Sure, you can make some money if you get lucky, but due volatility you can lose everything you made within a matter of days.

As someone who used to work in finance, my advice is to get an index fund. There are many such funds which track the S&P 500. If you want a certain 10% to 12% a year in returns with little risk, get a 500 index fund. It’s the safest type of investment with the best guaranteed returns.

Also, I would avoid buying bitcoin unless you need it to buy medicine. I don’t have health insurance, so I buy my medication from Canada with bitcoin. Due to the instability of cryptocurrencies, I’ve sometimes lost money with it. And there’s the fact that bitcoin seems to be in the heat of a bubble right now and inclined to burst at any time.
 
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