Bishop James Ussher Oct 23, 4004 BCE

[AV1611VET]

They are simple additions or subtractions. Why don't you accept them?

I use Ussher's dates because they are so popular.

You know?

Occam's razor and all.

That way, I avoid arguments like what you're using.

When it comes to the earth being created in 4004 BC or 4,543,000,000 BC, what's 31.5 years matter?

 

[Ace777]

When it comes to the earth being created in 4004 BC or 4,543,000,000 BC, what's 31.5 years matter?

Everything was created or finished in 4004 BC.

 

[Sabertooth]

Genesis 2:4-24 is Day 6 [Genesis 1:24-29], just from Man's perspective.

Are There Two Conflicting ''Creation Stories'' in Genesis...?

Some people contend that the Day 6 Creation accounts are contradictory making them unreliable, but I would propose that they CAN be made ...

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[AV1611VET]

Everything was created of finished in 4004 BC.

Yup.

 

[keras]

I use Ussher's dates because they are so popular.

But the Bible time periods as given, prove him wrong.
Many theories are popular, like the 'floated to heaven rapture', isn't it better to believe the truth?

Earth revolves in orbit around the Sun in 365 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes

Again, you are imposing mans time onto a celestial fact; our clocks do not alter = one orbit = one year.

What the timeline I presented does show, is that we have very little time left in this age. Don't like it? Tough!

 

[AV1611VET]

But the Bible time periods as given, prove him wrong.

Okay ... he's wrong.

I can handle that.

Can you?

As I said though, I use his calculations because of their popularity.

What's 31.5 years amidst 4,543,000,000?

Many theories are popular, like the 'floated to heaven rapture', isn't it better to believe the truth?

What "floated to heaven" theory?

Again, you are imposing mans time onto a celestial fact; our clocks do not alter = one orbit = one year.

What the timeline I presented does show, is that we have very little time left in this age.

Yes ... the Lord's return is imminent.

We are in the last days.

Have you ever worn one of these pins?

 

[Ace777]

Many theories are popular, like the 'floated to heaven rapture',

Are you talking about, this one? We can always read the Bible for ourselves. WE do not need anyone to read it for us.

1 Thessalonians 4:17​

Then shall we which live and remain, be caught up with them also in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

 

[Ace777]

When it comes to the earth being created in 4004 BC

We read Genesis 2:4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORDb God made them.

What day is this that we are reading about in this verse?

 

[AV1611VET]

We read Genesis 2:4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORDb God made them.

What day is this that we are reading about in this verse?

It is referring to Days 1 thru 6 of the Creation Week.

 

[Ace777]

It is referring to Days 1 thru 6 of the Creation Week.

Oh, so a day means 6 days, not 24 hours?

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, so a day means 6 days, not 24 hours?

In this case, yes.

 

[Ace777]

What's 31.5 years amidst 4,543,000,000?

You never heard of the butterfly effect?

 

[keras]

Okay ... he's wrong.

I can handle that.

Can you?

I find that to believe the truth is much better.

Are you talking about, this one? We can always read the Bible for ourselves. WE do not need anyone to read it for us.

I Thess 4:17 never mentions heaven, it describes a meeting in the atmospheric clouds, then transportation to Jerusalem where Jesus will be. Zechariah 14:4

 

[AV1611VET]

I find that to believe the truth is much better.

Let's have it then.

What year was the earth created?

I say 4004 BC, because it is a popular answer.

What say the truth?

 

[Ace777]

I Thess 4:17 never mentions heaven,

John 14 2 says Heaven. "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens". Jesus said I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am.

 

[keras]

Let's have it then.

What year was the earth created?

I say 4004 BC, because it is a popular answer.

What say the truth?

I gave the truth to you in #14. Check the figures and the math yourself. Or just reject it all to your discredit.

John 14 2 says Heaven. "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens". Jesus said I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am.

We are told very plainly in Revelation 21:1-7, just when the new Jerusalem will come to us. John 14:1-3, or any other verse in the Bible; does not say the Lord will take His people to heaven.
You seem to not see how this will happen -when this earthly house is dissolved.......2 Peter 3:11-13

 

[Ace777]

I use Ussher's dates because they are so popular.

The phrase “stood the test of time” means that something has endured and remained relevant, respected, or effective over a long period. It suggests that the quality or significance of that thing has not diminished despite the passage of time1. For example, great works of art, literature, or music can stand the test of time, remaining influential and appreciated for generations.

 

[AV1611VET]

The phrase “stood the test of time” means that something has endured and remained relevant, respected, or effective over a long period. It suggests that the quality or significance of that thing has not diminished despite the passage of time1. For example, great works of art, literature, or music can stand the test of time, remaining influential and appreciated for generations.

Good point, Ace!

 

[AV1611VET]

I gave the truth to you in #14.

Fair enough.

You say 3972.5 BC, Usher says 4004 BC, and I go with Usher.

What's the problem here?

Check the figures and the math yourself.

Some time ago, I did that very thing with a simple calculator.

And, as I suspected, my figures differed with Usher's figures by about 200 years.

That's when I decided I would go with Usher's figures, since his are more popular.

Or just reject it all to your discredit.

If rejecting your calculations discredits me, so be it.

Does the same standard apply to your figures as well?

 

[Ace777]

You say 3972.5 BC, Usher says 4004 BC, and I go with Usher.

What's the problem here?

The problem is 4004 minue 3972.5. You already know the solution is 31.5. Very close to the year Jesus went to Calvary.