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Beyonce in college?

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College to offer class on Beyonce | The Daily Caller


For anyone who didn't click it, some college is offering classes on Beyonce Studies, and the University of Columbia is offering classes on Occupy Wall Street Studies.

Is it really worth higher funding of colleges and universities if they make classes like these? I can't seem to come up with career fields who would accept these or even what degree you can get with this stuff.

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I'm so confused. Like at my college, I see foreign exchange students from all over. It shows that other countries are actually having more kids interested in higher education.

And in the meanwhile, this is what we're doing to our schools.

I wonder what jobs you can get with these. It surely can't be literature if it's Twilight. That's not real literature >.>. I can only see this as an elective for an easy A if you need a couple more credits. But nothing else.
 
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Aww Illuminati? -.-.

I don't believe in that conspiracy stuff :/

I just think it's a way of making college and universities more of an industry. Like on TV. Give kids what they wanna see. Now in college, give them the classes they want, and hoard all their money :p. But hope they don't complain when they get out and can't find a job because they got useless degrees or didn't learn useful skills xD.

I don't blame the businesses even 1%. They're profiting off what people want. if people want to watch junk or learn junk, that's just what the businesses will give them. The way to stop this dumbness is to hit them where it hurts, which is their wallets. Don't take the dumbo dumbo classes, and they'll stop offering them :p

Capitalism rules :D. But the people who fall for a lot of it drool ^_^
 
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Virtually all colleges these days offer some pop culture courses. Nothing inherently wrong with those as electives, as long as students get quality instruction in the basics of English, math, social and natural sciences, etc.

Ya know, Hamlet was pop entertainment in its day.

(Though to paraphrase a former VP candidate:

I know Shakespeare. Shakespeare is a friend of mine. "Twilight" is not Shakespeare. ;))
 
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Hey Keith. I see you've had a birthday recently :D

A course on vampires sounds good.

And reading through the course descriptions I'd say that all 7 "Twilight" courses actually sound pretty good and academically sound. Worst accusation I'd make based on the descriptions is that one or 2 sound like traps. Advertise Twilight in the title of the course and trap poor lazy kids who read no farther into a list of classic lit as long as my arm.
 
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Well that's how they make money. Give kids what they want. Even though they'll walk out learning nothing.

We had a prop passed in California recently called prop 30 which gives more money to schools and it passed. I'm hoping that none of the money went to classes like these. I'd much rather see them spent on actual literature and math and sciences.
 
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Honestly, I think both classes have a fair amount of real learning potential, depending always on what your degree is.

Beyonce started out as the non-vocally strong background component of a female pop group. Despite not being the most beautiful or the most talented in the group, and despite the fact that her group was one of a million at the time, she distinguished herself, had a successful solo career, and now is a one-woman empire while most others of her genre (and even her own former group) are enjoying prolonged bouts of obscurity. She's her own brand, her own entity, and one of the most powerful women in music... And not just because of who her husband is.

For somebody who's a liberal arts major and hoping to go into the entertainment industry, or even people who're in the media/marketing/PR degree track, I'm sure the investigation of her brand would be very, very valuable and highly relevant.

As far as the Occupy Wall Street movement, that's actually a fabulous idea, especially for business degrees. Grass roots campaign, word-of-mouth, and it managed to become a movement that spread across the country and, agree with it or not, had direct impacts on businesses around the world. Advertising campaigns were dumped, goodwill programs ramped up, and entire public images were changed as a direct response to a movement that attacked an ideal and not a specific company. If it wasn't for the movement of local governments, some of them would still be "occupying." What was a little nothing sit-in turned into a PR nightmare for companies, corporations, cities, and local and national governments. I bet a study on that whole phenomenon would be awesome for business degrees, PR/marketing, government/citizenship degrees, even a humanities degree.

The Twilight-esque classes, those come and go. I can't remember a time that a popular piece of literature didn't have it's own, usually short lived, class. It makes sense again for the liberal arts degrees to take apart how a book manages to be a pop phenom despite having no real redeeming qualities in terms of writing styles, content, storyline idea/progression, or originality. It has value, just not to all people or all degrees.

That said, when I was in college getting my ECE and business degree, I had to take a class... What was it called... I think it was "Myth and Modern US Culture" and it sounded like it was stupid, unrelated to anything... We watched movies like "Chinatown" and "Stagecoach" and "Baraka" and read a bunch of modern stories/authors, everything from Stephen King to Candice Bushnell (or whatever her name is) and JK Rowling. It ended up being one of the best classes I had in college and a fabulous, fabulous resource for both business and ECE degrees, though heaven help me, you'd never think it would be.

Remembering always that Shakespeare wasn't always Shakespeare and he wasn't always regarded as a literary genius, I think that a lot of those classes certainly have the potential to be more meaningful and relevant then the class that my husband took when he was in college, "Pre-Rennesance European Art Appreciation and Interpretation," or even the one my brother took for a biology and wildlife sciences degree related to LINC computer programming... A computer that was outdated by 1980 and hasn't been in a lab since around the same time. I'd think the practical applications of the entity that is Beyonce is no more or less ridiculous then that. Though, as always, it all depends on the teacher. A teacher can make a bad class worthwhile and a worthwhile class an utter waste of time.
 
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There's a term for some of these. I think it's called basket weavin, but I sorta understand what you mean. I don't understand what liberal arts is though or what kind of job it can get you.

Wouldn't the tea party be better to have a class on though? Every time i see the occupy pie, I see self entitlement. I just figured that it died down because the gave up.
 
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