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Are Trump and the Republicans going to put an end to Social Security for Americans?

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Undoubtedly just after the new health care plan and his tax returns.

I would say that IRS audits normally don't take 10 plus years but as everyone's favorite foreign billionaire administration auditor found out, they are a little incompetent.
 
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A prosecutor running on the platform of prosecuting criminals? Scandalous!!

The prosecution may have thought Trump was guilty beforehand, but instead of just saying that, they compiled tons of evidence to support those allegations. Enough evidence to convince a jury, unanimously, that he was guilty on all 34 counts.

That's not a railroading, that's the way criminal trials work.
You can believe whatever makes you feel better lol! Trump was deemed guilty before the trial. Trials should not be biased...they used lawfare against him. But in the end the American people disagreed with your scenario and voted Trump in as POTUS!
 
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Undoubtedly just after the new health care plan and his tax returns.
Nice try...neither of those things have any bearing on the subject we are discussing...but you already knew that...
 
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Nice try...neither of those things have any bearing on the subject we are discussing...but you already knew that...
I know that lots of things are promised of the Trump administration, and then never seen. The examples were there to justify my skepticism.
 
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I know that lots of things are promised of the Trump administration, and then never seen. The examples were there to justify my skepticism.
Except they had nothing to do with what we were discussing as I said...
 
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It's been stated far too many times that SS and such won't be touched. It hasn't been. Just like EVERY government program there is fraud. Finding it and removing it is the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. Why on earth anyone is opposed to this is beyond me. So many are getting so worked up over this silliness.
 
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You can believe whatever makes you feel better lol! Trump was deemed guilty before the trial.
Link?
Trials should not be biased...
Nobody is saying otherwise.
they used lawfare against him.
You mean the law?
But in the end the American people disagreed with your scenario and voted Trump in as POTUS!
They didn't overturn the verdict, and now they 25% that voted for him are regretting it.
 
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Nice try...neither of those things have any bearing on the subject we are discussing...
Of course they do, because they are what we call counterexamples to your false claim that we'll soon see fraud charges.
but you already knew that...
I know we haven't seen fraud charges yet, along with many other promises going back many years.
 
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Link?

Nobody is saying otherwise.

You mean the law?

They didn't overturn the verdict, and now they 25% that voted for him are regretting it.
The following are all undeniable facts.
The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge had for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.”

District Attorney Alvin Bragg ran for office in an overwhelmingly Democratic county by saying his Trump-hunting prowess. He bizarrely (and falsely) boasted on the campaign trail, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.”

I won't even get into Letitia James and the rest...but you already know all about that, right?
 
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Of course they do, because they are what we call counterexamples to your false claim that we'll soon see fraud charges
Um no, you are switching topics and bringing in things out of context...
 
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You can believe whatever makes you feel better lol!
I've not said a word about what I may or may not believe. I've only cited facts.

Trump was deemed guilty before the trial. Trials should not be biased...they used lawfare against him.
I've no doubt many "deemed" Trump guilty before the trial, but the fact remains: the prosecution provided evidence to prove his guilt, which is what prosecutors do. The jury, which was selected by both parties and considered unbiased, viewed that evidence and unanimously decided, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he was guilty.

If you have proof that any of these facts are not true, feel free to present it. Otherwise, your opinions are nothing more than your opinions, based on your own bias, not the facts.

But in the end the American people disagreed with your scenario and voted Trump in as POTUS!
There is nothing in the Constitution to prevent a convicted felon from running for President, and people are free to vote for whomever they like, regardless of whatever crimes that candidate may or may not have committed. None of that has any bearing on whether or not Trump was guilty. None of the voters (save the 12 jurors) saw the evidence at trial, so they don't have all the information the jury had.

-- A2SG, and that's the truth...pthhhh....
 
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The following are all undeniable facts.
The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge had for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.”
And the NY Supreme Court ruled that did not require him to be recused.

District Attorney Alvin Bragg ran for office in an overwhelmingly Democratic county by saying his Trump-hunting prowess. He bizarrely (and falsely) boasted on the campaign trail, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.”

I won't even get into Letitia James and the rest...but you already know all about that, right?
Prosecutors prosecute those they believe to be guilty. That's what they're elected to do. But they don't prosecute based on their opinions alone. They compile evidence, and try to convince a jury that the evidence proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's exactly what they did.

You don't have to agree with the verdict...but then again, you didn't see the evidence that the jury did, so you don't know as much as they did.

-- A2SG, and that seems to be the difference here.....
 
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LOL OF COURSE THEY DID! Proves my point...
What point is that, exactly? Are you trying to imply that the NY Supreme Court is corrupt, or has a vendetta against Trump for some reason?

Because, if you are, then you're gonna need evidence to prove that. Otherwise, there's no option but to lump that in with your other biased accusations without merit or substance.

-- A2SG, because, from where I'm sitting, that's all you've got.....
 
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What point is that, exactly? Are you trying to imply that the NY Supreme Court is corrupt, or has a vendetta against Trump for some reason?

Because, if you are, then you're gonna need evidence to prove that. Otherwise, there's no option but to lump that in with your other biased accusations without merit or substance.

-- A2SG, because, from where I'm sitting, that's all you've got.....
It just so happens NY is a super liberal State with super liberal judges. if it were in a super conservative State it would not be such a "coincidence."
BTW, Jasmine Crockett is now under investigation by the FEC over donations made to her campaign through the leftist fundraising organization ActBlue. Evidence reportedly shows that an individual donated to her campaign over 50 times without their knowledge, suggesting that donations were being given under false names. Crockett received over $870,000 in total donations through ActBlue. :cool:
 
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