Are These Manifestations From God?

[YAWANNAKNOWJESUS?]

As far as I am concerned this would fit into the signs miracles and wonders catergory.

And doesn't this guy have anything better to do than play judge who are we to tell God what He can and cannot do? We are mere human beings He is God the creator of all that ever was, is and ever shall be.

I have heard said this way.

God is immortal we are mortal.

When the immortal touches the mortal then the mortal will somehow react. Because there is power in the immortal.

Kinda like stinkin your wet finger into a live light socket.

 

[NewSong]

To answer a few questions about the manifestations. No I have no biblical proof as I stated but I can say this that if they were not from God then the devil is awful disappointed because bars closed in this hometown because two men's life got changed and now are radically living for the Lord Jesus Christ. Devil must be terribly disappointed that Jesus is being glorified despite the manifestations that may or may not be of God.

So in answer to your question. I cannot prove they were from God nor can I disprove they weren't. More points to the fact that something happen despite the manifestations so who cares?

If I had walked the earth the days of Jesus and He being common to man spit in some mud and put it on my eyes, "I would have yelled that is poor hygeine and gross." Jesus is not confined to his days he walked the earth nor is the Spirit of God and my point is that GOD will do whatever it takes to bring people to himself.

Now on this forum, I have been on both sides of this and I am not double minded. I am just not going to deny something to pacify someone who is trying to justify it intellectually and box the Holy Spirit into to how it should or shouldn't happen. God is God and HE will do whatever HE wants to do because HE is God and HE is soverign regardless of what I think or don't think and God will take whatever the situation is and use it to HIS glory. I am not comprimising there.

As far as I am concerned the debate for me is done because I cannot give you any more proof one way or another. I can tell you that I have seen fruit in others but wondered where my own was.

 

[Honibee]

I would say that more than anything, he is asking people to search the scriptures to see if these things are of God or not, as the Bereans did in the Bible, which Paul commended them for.

If Paul come could back today, he would commend Christians for checking to see if such manifestations as these were truly of God or not.

If such manifetations as people being stuck to the floor in "Holy Ghost Glue", barking like dogs, mooing, people flopping around on the floor, entire congregation laughing uncontrobally, and such which were found in varying degrees within the Laughing Revival don't have scriptural parallels, then Paul the Apostle would undoubtably say to stay away from it.

For one, I believe that many(if not most) occurences violated the rule to do all things in decency and in order, as the scripture says, and secondly, since I can't find any scripture(s) to back up these aforementioned manifestations as being from God, there is no way to guarantee 100% that they were/are from God.

I am not going to let myself be deceived in these last days. Great deception will occur in the last days, as our Lord and Paul the Apostle said.

There are many things listed as being from God, such as speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance, laying hands on people, being in services where the gifts of the Spirit are in operation, etc. Why take a chance on getting caught up in something that I can't know with 100% certainty is from God?

Deception would be my real concern as well in these manifestations. It never has been considered judgmental by God, to earnestly search out scirpture for truth. As ProAmerican has adequately stated, it is EXPECTED of us.

 

[probinson]

People mocking them and saying that they were drunk was an attempt by Satan to try and discredit the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. Peter even said that people don't get drunk during the day, but at night. Peter could have said something to the effect of "We're drunk in the Spirit," but he didn't.

Hence, they weren't acting like drunks.

Why would people mock someone saying they were drunk if they did not indeed appear drunk? Why would Peter say, these men are not drunk as you suppose? I'm missing the logic here. If I say, look at the drunk over there, it's because it appears to me that person is exhibitng signs of a drunk person. If someone was simply speaking in another language, declaring the mighty works of God, I would not think they were drunk. Not only that, but if someone said I was drunk, I wouldn't even need to dignify it with a response, because it would be so obviously false to everyone present.

I'm just wondering what would cause someone to say, these men are drunk, if they did not appear to BE drunk?

 

[TreeOfLife]

Why would people mock someone saying they were drunk if they did not indeed appear drunk? Why would Peter say, these men are not drunk as you suppose? I'm missing the logic here. If I say, look at the drunk over there, it's because it appears to me that person is exhibitng signs of a drunk person. If someone was simply speaking in another language, declaring the mighty works of God, I would not think they were drunk. Not only that, but if someone said I was drunk, I wouldn't even need to dignify it with a response, because it would be so obviously false to everyone present.

I'm just wondering what would cause someone to say, these men are drunk, if they did not appear to BE drunk?

That makes sense to me probinson.