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My mates Mother in law was classed as a 'Dragon'. He would steer well clear of her!!
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Are dragons evil and should Christians avoid them?
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My mates Mother in law was classed as a 'Dragon'. He would steer well clear of her!!
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I mean most Christians wouldn't have a problem with a snake on their shirt, and the dragon is no different so why not a dragon?
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Ha ha - when I was in the army and posted a state away from family, I used to write to my grandparents as "Dear George and the Dragon."
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Yeah, it all depends on the context. How is the dragon visualised - what is it doing - what is it about - what does it stand for or mean?
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Michael D. O Brien has written a book called A Landscape with Dragons. Which is a christian critique of contemporary fantasy novels and films. One of his main concerns is about a symbolic inversion in some fantasy stories and films.
In regard to fantasy writer Anne MaCaffrey, he says:
"McCaffrey depicts dragons as beautiful, intelligent, good creatures, and thus the primary negative impact of her novels is symbol inversion."
Contrast Dragonslayer (1981) - where the dragon is depicted more or less in traditional western manner.
Dragonslayer (1981 film) - Wikipedia
And Dragonheart (1996) - which is far less traditional in its story line - and symbolism. O'Brien says the dragon in this film is presented as a Christ-figure!!
Dragonheart - Wikipedia
In regard to fantasy writer Anne MaCaffrey, he says:
"McCaffrey depicts dragons as beautiful, intelligent, good creatures, and thus the primary negative impact of her novels is symbol inversion."
Contrast Dragonslayer (1981) - where the dragon is depicted more or less in traditional western manner.
Dragonslayer (1981 film) - Wikipedia
And Dragonheart (1996) - which is far less traditional in its story line - and symbolism. O'Brien says the dragon in this film is presented as a Christ-figure!!
Dragonheart - Wikipedia
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Yet Jesus is the lion of Judah - and yet Satan prowls around like a lion. Both are biblical symbols on very opposite ends of meaning. Context within the story is everything.
I get the feeling many of these more paranoid authors need to listen to Petra's old song "Another witch hunt."
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I don't know if O'Brien is paranoid or on a witch hunt.
I take your point about lion symbolism, but is the dragon symbol used in different / opposite contexts in the Bible, the same way as the lion symbol?
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CS Lewis has a dragon in his novel Perelandra. It doesn't have much of a role in the story. When his protagonist Ranson awakes after arriving on the unfallen planet Perelandra, he see's a small dragon curled round a tree looking at him. It's like in the Garden of Hesperides. He wonders for a while whether or not it is a rational animal. It follows him around a bit, but in the end it seems to suddenly forget about him and this convinces Ransom it is just a beast. It doesn't have any other part in the story as far as I can recall.
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See? Dragons are not real. The biblical symbolism was all about their evil. Today's fantasy dragons are probably vastly different creatures anyway.
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I wouldn’t consider Leviathan to be a dragon. I believe it is a sea monster, representing chaos, which in Hebrew mythology is associated with the sea.
Words that King James translates dragon are often identified with specific animals in modern translations. So it’s not so clear that they referred to what modern fantasy writers would call dragons. E.g Gen 1:21 is often translated today (and in KJV) as whales. At any rate it’s clearly aquatic, which I’m pretty sure St Georges dragon wasn’t, nor today’s fantasy dragons. Anchor Bible translates it sea monsters.
Words that King James translates dragon are often identified with specific animals in modern translations. So it’s not so clear that they referred to what modern fantasy writers would call dragons. E.g Gen 1:21 is often translated today (and in KJV) as whales. At any rate it’s clearly aquatic, which I’m pretty sure St Georges dragon wasn’t, nor today’s fantasy dragons. Anchor Bible translates it sea monsters.
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Dragons are not any more evil than other creatures. But they are powerful. This is probably why Satan chose the dragon as his symbol. Lots of people have used dragons on coats of arms, flags, and such because they are powerful animals.
The dragon is Revelation is a red dragon. Ring a bell? Is any nation today a red dragon?
The dragon is Revelation is a red dragon. Ring a bell? Is any nation today a red dragon?
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Dragons are not any more evil than other creatures. But they are powerful. This is probably why Satan chose the dragon as his symbol. Lots of people have used dragons on coats of arms, flags, and such because they are powerful animals.
The dragon is Revelation is a red dragon. Ring a bell? Is any nation today a red dragon?
The dragon is Revelation is a red dragon. Ring a bell? Is any nation today a red dragon?
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Here's the thing. Satan didn't choose the image of a dragon for himself. John did, as a metaphor to describe him. You're acting as if the metaphor John used then is somehow prescriptive for us on a cultural basis now. The Christian life has also been described as having the attributes of armour - but does that mean anything about wearing actual armour now?
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Lol. No. We have to keep the memory of it, so we can remember having gotten rid of it. The importance of the dragon is that it was slain by Saint George, and other dragons by similar heroes!No not necessary evil, a necessary story telling trope that enriches all our lives. And not only this but if you are history geek, like anthropology etc. all kinds of cool stuff with dragons and serpents going back before there was the invention of writing. The Dragon is "Older than Dirt" as far as world culture goes.
Older Than Dirt - TV Tropes
Rather than get rid of the dragon, I say that those that want to get rid of it might not have a soul.
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Leviathan in the Bible is described as God's creation, and is described as having scales and breathing fire. So not only are dragons okay for a Christian to like, they weren't as mythical as we've been told. Double happy news for you!
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