Age of the earth isn’t 4.6 Billion years

[chad kincham]

One interesting thing to note is that alligators of the Mesozoic are not the same as alligators of today.

Early mesozoic crocodiles looked more like archosaurs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodylomorpha

Late mesozoic crocodiles would grow up to 40 feet long. Which is significantly larger than alligators or crocodiles grow today.

People tend to confuse this. Thinking prehistoric ceolacanths and prehistoric sharks and prehistoric alligators were all the same as they are today. But they're actually unique species.

Megalodon is another example. It is similar to a great white shark, but much much larger.

So people shouldn't confuse prehistory by saying that because crocodiles lived alongside dinosaurs, and we live alongside crocodiles, then it must be true that we lived alongside dinosaurs.

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This is something I mentioned to @Derf the other day. The same goes for prehistoric ceolacanths. They actually aren't the same species as ceolacanths of today and are morphologically unique and different in the past (though I would agree that the prehistoric species do resemble those of today).

The accurate depictions of dinosaurs in pottery and granite found worldwide, done long before Darwinism caused the intense search for fossils resulting in complete dinosaur skeletons being dug up and assembled so what they looked like can be known, is evidence that they saw them alive.

Not to mention tools being discovered in strata dinosaurs were found in, and in ancient coal deposits, and dinosaur tracks exhumed from a river valley bed in Texas, with human footprints overlaying - confirmed by diagnostic imaging scans to be genuine, not carved or cast is more evidence.

And the fact that soft tissue consisting of cells and blood vessels was found in dinosaur bones, (which can’t be over 7,000 years old, and certainly not 70 million years old), is more confirmation that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

 

[BeyondET]

I’ve known for a long time that secular science calculations of the recession rate of the moons orbit, shows that the earth cannot be older than 1.5 billion years.

And very recently I saw an article where scientist now say that the earths core can’t be older than 1.5 billion years.

The earth is still much younger than 1.5 billion years, but it’s interesting that there are two groups of scientists saying that the earth is over 3 billion years younger than paleontology and geology claims.

its about 14 billion years old, from the time it was formless and void in the elemental stage.

 

[pescador]

its about 14 billion years old, from the time it was formless and void in the elemental stage.

What is this based on?

 

[BeyondET]

One interesting thing to note is that alligators of the Mesozoic are not the same as alligators of today.

Early mesozoic crocodiles looked more like archosaurs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodylomorpha

Late mesozoic crocodiles would grow up to 40 feet long. Which is significantly larger than alligators or crocodiles grow today.

People tend to confuse this. Thinking prehistoric ceolacanths and prehistoric sharks and prehistoric alligators were all the same as they are today. But they're actually unique species.

Megalodon is another example. It is similar to a great white shark, but much much larger.

So people shouldn't confuse prehistory by saying that because crocodiles lived alongside dinosaurs, and we live alongside crocodiles, then it must be true that we lived alongside dinosaurs.

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This is something I mentioned to @Derf the other day. The same goes for prehistoric ceolacanths. They actually aren't the same species as ceolacanths of today and are morphologically unique and different in the past (though I would agree that the prehistoric species do resemble those of today).

i live near the Chesapeake Bay, it must of been a major breeding ground of Megalodons for there is no other place on earth that has so many megalodon teeth that are found.

great white left, megalodon right.

 

[BeyondET]

What is this based on?

the earth is made up of atomic elements before the earth was formed those elements existed.

 

[Job 33:6]

Not to mention tools being discovered in strata dinosaurs were found in, and in ancient coal deposits, and dinosaur tracks exhumed from a river valley bed in Texas, with human footprints overlaying - confirmed by diagnostic imaging scans to be genuine, not carved or cast is more evidence.

And the fact that soft tissue consisting of cells and blood vessels was found in dinosaur bones, (which can’t be over 7,000 years old, and certainly not 70 million years old), is more confirmation that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

I disagree with all of the above. People can imagine dragons and things that look like serpents and othe mythical beasts. But ultimately, this imagined world of the Flintstones is just that. Imagined. It pales in comparison to the mountain of evidence to the contrary. It's just no competition for geology.

 

[Job 33:6]

i live near the Chesapeake Bay, it must of been a major breeding ground of Megalodons for there is no other place on earth that has so many megalodon teeth that are found.

great white left, megalodon right.

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I've been meaning to make a trip there. Calvert cliffs? I believe that's where there are lots of teeth. A tooth of that quality would probably sell for maybe 500 dollars, maybe more I think.

 

[Job 33:6]

I’ve known for a long time that secular science calculations of the recession rate of the moons orbit, shows that the earth cannot be older than 1.5 billion years.

No they don't. We've already covered this. It's as if you willfully ignore the very research that you quoted before clearly stating that the recession rate aligned with an earth 4.56 billion years old.

And very recently I saw an article where scientist now say that the earths core can’t be older than 1.5 billion years.

Earth's core is not the same as the age of the earth. Earth's crust is younger than 4.56 billion years as well. But just because one part of the earth is younger, doesn't mean that the whole planet is the same age. The core formed over time by metal migrating and consolidating from outer layers.

 

[BeyondET]

And the fact that soft tissue consisting of cells and blood vessels was found in dinosaur bones, (which can’t be over 7,000 years old, and certainly not 70 million years old), is more confirmation that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

because of the abundance of iron in blood it forms minuscule iron nanoparticles and also generates free radicals, which are highly reactive molecules involved in aging. when the blood stops moving the free radicals cause proteins and cell membranes to tie in knots which basically turns into formaldehyde and preserves tissue. It works by linking up, or cross-linking, the amino acids that make up proteins, which makes those proteins more resistant to decay.

 

[BeyondET]

I've been meaning to make a trip there. Calvert cliffs? I believe that's where there are lots of teeth. A tooth of that quality would probably sell for maybe 500 dollars, maybe more I think.

you and me both my friend i live just cross the bay and have never been there, i'm a hermit for sure lol.

 

[chad kincham]

I disagree with all of the above. People can imagine dragons and things that look like serpents and othe mythical beasts. But ultimately, this imagined world of the Flintstones is just that. Imagined. It pales in comparison to the mountain of evidence to the contrary. It's just no competition for geology.

No one invented an accurate depiction of a stegosaurus from their imagination, centuries before the existence of paleontology and the digging up of complete skeletons and assembling them. Or T-rex or the others that have been found.

 

[Job 33:6]

No one invented an accurate depiction of a stegosaurus from their imagination, centuries before the existence of paleontology and the digging up of complete skeletons and assembling them. Or T-rex or the others that have been found.

That alleged stegosaurus looks like it had a unicorn horn. I wouldn't call that accurate. Looks like a mythological reptile. But again, all of this pales in comparison to geology.

Stegosaurus, Rhinoceros, or Hoax? | Science | Smithsonian Magazine

 

[SilverBear]

I've seen his presentation on this years ago....go luck trying to get anyone in the establishment even willing to look at his evidence I mean they won't even look at it. Baugh is wrong in their opinion because they SAY he's wrong.

they were examined by several notable scientists shortly after their "discovery and found to be fakes
Ref
Milne, David H. & Schafersman, Steven D., 1983. "Dinosaur Tracks, Erosion Marks, and Midnight Chisel Work (But No Human Footprints) in Cretaceous Limestone of the Paluxy River Bed, Texas." Journal of Geological Education, Vol. 32, pp. 111-123.

Cole, John R., 1986. "Paluxy Creek Footprints in Pittsburgh." Creation/Evolution Newsletter, Athens, WV, Vol. 6, No. 5, pp. 15-16.

Cole, John R. & Godfrey, Laurie R., e&, 1985. "The Paluxy River Footprint Mystery-Solved." Creation/Evolution, (Special Issue), Issue XV, 56 pages. Includes articles by John R. Cole, Laurie R. Godfrey, Ronnie J. Hastings, and Steven D. Schafersman.

Hastings, Ronnie J., 1987a. "New Observations on Paluxy Tracks Confirm Their Dinosaurian Origin," Journal of Geological Education, Vol. 35, No. 1, pp. 4-15.

Following this Baugh has refused to allow access to the supposed prints and will not even allow photographs of them to be taken. His creation museum displays a plaster cast of the supposed tracks

 

[Job 33:6]

they were examined by several notable scientists shortly after their "discovery and found to be fakes
Ref
Milne, David H. & Schafersman, Steven D., 1983. "Dinosaur Tracks, Erosion Marks, and Midnight Chisel Work (But No Human Footprints) in Cretaceous Limestone of the Paluxy River Bed, Texas." Journal of Geological Education, Vol. 32, pp. 111-123.

Cole, John R., 1986. "Paluxy Creek Footprints in Pittsburgh." Creation/Evolution Newsletter, Athens, WV, Vol. 6, No. 5, pp. 15-16.

Cole, John R. & Godfrey, Laurie R., e&, 1985. "The Paluxy River Footprint Mystery-Solved." Creation/Evolution, (Special Issue), Issue XV, 56 pages. Includes articles by John R. Cole, Laurie R. Godfrey, Ronnie J. Hastings, and Steven D. Schafersman.

Hastings, Ronnie J., 1987a. "New Observations on Paluxy Tracks Confirm Their Dinosaurian Origin," Journal of Geological Education, Vol. 35, No. 1, pp. 4-15.

Following this Baugh has refused to allow access to the supposed prints and will not even allow photographs of them to be taken. His creation museum displays a plaster cast of the supposed tracks

What's hilarious is that the T-Rex track doesn't even look like a T-Rex track. It's like some goofy cartoonist print.

Creation fake trackway:

Real T Rex Track:

Not that I really expected much from a forgery, but they really could have done a better job.

 

[SilverBear]

What's hilarious is that the T-Rex track doesn't even look like a T-Rex track. It's like some goofy cartoonist print.

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Creation fake trackway:
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Real T Rex Track:
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Not that I really expected much from a forgery, but they really could have done a better job.

and for fun compare them to real dinosaur footprints

 

[chad kincham]

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Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park

If you buy into the story, above are some common ones.

I would guess them to be, assuming they are ancient and aren't forgeries, figments of the human imagination. The dinosaur trackway doesn't appear to be anatomically correct, indicating that it likely isn't real. Some sculptures look or or less like dinosaurs than others. Some appear to be sculptures of mythical beasts of folk lore.

The tracks exhumed from a Texas river bed were sectioned and tested by medical imaging which shoes compression in the tracks from their weight and verified they are not cast and not carved.

They didn’t just dream up the stegosaurus and T. rex depictions, such as the one you showed that’s part of an ancient temple - and forensic examination showed that the stegosaurus was not added, but is an original carving along with depictions of other animals such as a monkey.

 

[chad kincham]

That alleged stegosaurus looks like it had a unicorn horn. I wouldn't call that accurate. Looks like a mythological reptile. But again, all of this pales in comparison to geology.

Stegosaurus, Rhinoceros, or Hoax? | Science | Smithsonian Magazine

Here it is the Cambodian temple:

Dinosaurs in ancient Cambodian temple

 

[Job 33:6]

The tracks exhumed from a Texas river bed were sectioned and tested by medical imaging which shoes compression in the tracks from their weight and verified they are not cast and not carved.

These tracks never existed. If you think they did, then can you at least show a picture of them?

 

[chad kincham]

What's hilarious is that the T-Rex track doesn't even look like a T-Rex track. It's like some goofy cartoonist print.

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Creation fake trackway:
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Real T Rex Track:
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Not that I really expected much from a forgery, but they really could have done a better job.

I’ve seen counterfeit money, too. That doesn’t prove all money is fake.

The footprints Dr. Carl Baugh took out of a Texas riverbed were sectioned and examined, including the use of medical imaging, showing compression of the earth by the weight of the human and dinosaur, confirming they are not carved or cast.

 

[Job 33:6]

These tracks never existed. If you think they did, then can you at least show a picture of them?

No pictures were provided.

Like I said, these tracks never existed. But we're forgeries.

Carl Baugh - Wikipedia

Your alleged doctor isn't even a doctor at all, he's just a con artist out to get money.