Abortion poll

[comana]

Any attempt to preserve or lift restrictions is selling abortion.

I don’t accept your definition. You are entitled to your opinion of course.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

No insult was intended I just didn’t think you could speak for all women. I would never say what I posted to a woman, it was a comment intended for Belk and would have been better left unsaid.
I see from your other post you have quite a bit of experience in woods, with bears, and with creepy men.
I’m sorry that was your experience, all men are not like that. You have a husband so you must have found at least one good man.

You know, an “I’m sorry” would have been a better route… But ok.

Do I speak for all women? Well, there are some things that are pretty universal… Women who date or are in relationships being compared to prostitutes is a pretty much universally disliked by all women thing. You must know that since you yourself said you’d not say such a thing to your wife.

And I also get you were speaking to somebody else, but it’s a public forum and you said it publicly in a group discussion. If somebody says something cringy, directed at me or not, I’m going to say something.

As for the ol “it’s not all men” thing, I didn’t say it was all men. But it’s enough of them that act weird on the rail trail or make problematic comments that they claim “are just jokes” that it makes women wary. And it really doesn’t take all men, just one.

 

[Zaha Torte]

I don’t accept your definition. You are entitled to your opinion of course.

You truly don't believe there is any difference between a miscarriage, delivering a child early to save the life of the mother and murdering the unborn child because their existence is inconvenient?

 

[Zaha Torte]

Per the definition of contraception, no. It is a form of birth control though.

If birth control and contraception are synonyms - how could you argue that I agree that abortion is a method of birth control considering what you just stated here?

 

[Zaha Torte]

Then I'll just add you to my ignore list.

That's too bad.

 

[comana]

If birth control and contraception are synonyms - how could you argue that I agree that abortion is a method of birth control considering what you just stated here?

I’m not claiming they are synonymous. This is your misunderstanding.

 

[comana]

You truly don't believe there is any difference between a miscarriage, delivering a child early to save the life of the mother and murdering the unborn child because their existence is inconvenient?

You were claiming that that the slogan “legal, safe, rare” is “selling” abortion. I said I disagree. Your comment above has nothing to do with that.

 

[Zaha Torte]

I’m not claiming they are synonymous. This is your misunderstanding.

That was both my claim and the truth.

And you claimed that my stating that they were synonymous meant that I somehow agreed that abortion was a method of birth control.

Can you explain the logic behind your claim?

 

[Zaha Torte]

You were claiming that that the slogan “legal, safe, rare” is “selling” abortion. I said I disagree. Your comment above has nothing to do with that.

Yes - helping normalize abortion - working both sides of the fence - marketing.

 

[comana]

I would argue that all that proves is that the efforts of radical feminists are effective.

The lies they perpetuate are spread by very powerful institutions who make money by manipulating women.

The very real experiences of women are not the result of “radical feminists”. Women fearful of strange men comes directly from the actions of men against women.

 

[comana]

That was both my claim and the truth.

And you claimed that my stating that they were synonymous meant that I somehow agreed that abortion was a method of birth control.

Can you explain the logic behind your claim?

Contraception = birth control.
Abortion = birth control
Abortion does not equal contraception.

 

[Zaha Torte]

The very real experiences of women are not the result of “radical feminists”. Women fearful of strange men comes directly from the actions of men against women.

Are you claiming that only women who had such experiences with men responded to that poll?

 

[Zaha Torte]

Contraception = birth control.
Abortion = birth control
Abortion does not equal contraception.

That doesn't make any sense.

How Birth Control Is Different From an Abortion

How is birth control different from an abortion? What is the process like? What are the effects on your body? Learn the differences between birth control and an abortion.

www.webmd.com

 

[comana]

Are you claiming that only women who had such experiences with men responded to that poll?

All the women responding that they would choose the bear did so because they had some interaction with a man or multiple men over their lifetime that made them uncomfortable to fearful. This is the experience of most women in general. Bears are predictable men are not. A woman can’t trust that a stranger doesn’t have ill will.

 

[BPPLEE]

You know, an “I’m sorry” would have been a better route… But ok.

Do I speak for all women? Well, there are some things that are pretty universal… Women who date or are in relationships being compared to prostitutes is a pretty much universally disliked by all women thing. You must know that since you yourself said you’d not say such a thing to your wife.

And I also get you were speaking to somebody else, but it’s a public forum and you said it publicly in a group discussion. If somebody says something cringy, directed at me or not, I’m going to say something.

As for the ol “it’s not all men” thing, I didn’t say it was all men. But it’s enough of them that act weird on the rail trail or make problematic comments that they claim “are just jokes” that it makes women wary. And it really doesn’t take all men, just one.

I apologize to all women everywhere.

 

[comana]

That doesn't make any sense.

If you can’t comprehend that abortion occurs after conception and therefore cannot be a form of contraception , I don’t know how else to explain it.

Abortion is birth control because the pregnancy is terminated prior to birth, therefore no birth.
Contraception is birth control because conception is prevented, therefore no birth.

 

[Zaha Torte]

If you can’t comprehend that abortion occurs after conception and therefore cannot be a form of contraception , I don’t know how else to explain it.

Abortion is birth control because the pregnancy is terminated prior to birth, therefore no birth.
Contraception is birth control because conception is prevented, therefore no birth.

You must have responded before I edited my comment.

How Birth Control Is Different From an Abortion

How is birth control different from an abortion? What is the process like? What are the effects on your body? Learn the differences between birth control and an abortion.

www.webmd.com

 

[Zaha Torte]

All the women responding that they would choose the bear did so because they had some interaction with a man or multiple men over their lifetime that made them uncomfortable to fearful. This is the experience of most women in general. Bears are predictable men are not. A woman can’t trust that a stranger doesn’t have ill will.

I see no reason to believe that.

The vast majority of the women that responded did so because they have bought into a baseless feminist narrative.

And you're damn right the bear will be predictable. It will try to eat you.

 

[comana]

I see no reason to believe that.

The vast majority of the women that responded did so because they have bought into a baseless feminist narrative.

And you're damn right the bear will be predictable. It will try to eat you.

You must be a man. Very little to worry about for safety in general.

Bears are predictable, very few encounters result in attack. Bears want to be left alone.

 

[Zaha Torte]

You must be a man. Very little to worry about for safety in general.

Bears are predictable, very few encounters result in attack. Bears want to be left alone.

Men are way more likely to be victims of violence.

Most encounters with bears tend not to result in attacks because they happen on the verge of civilization where there are more people.

They are already wary because they are outside of their territory.

The more appropriate question for the poll would be, "If you were stuck in the middle of the forest with both a strange man and a bear - which would you choose to protect you?"

And look at you assuming my "gender".