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First it was grooming and LGBTQ agenda, and now it's "LGBTQ lessons". Maybe you can explain the difference, and in doing so, you'll understand my point.

I'm not lying here.
If you read the link I gave you, it is very clear that there is a LGBTQ agenda. It is literal activists working with teachers and teacher's unions
 
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If you read the link I gave you, it is very clear that there is a LGBTQ agenda. It is literal activists working with teachers and teacher's unions
To do what? Teach about LGBT? Why not?
 
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If you read the link I gave you, it is very clear that there is a LGBTQ agenda. It is literal activists working with teachers and teacher's unions
The agenda: teaching kids not to murder or assault LGBTQ citizens. I understand that some disagree with these teachings, which is unfortunate.
 
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The agenda: teaching kids not to murder or assault LGBTQ citizens. I understand that some disagree with these teachings, which is unfortunate.
yeah, not what I said. I never once suggested it was OK to murder or assault LGBTQ people

and that is evident to everyone here.

you think that is my agenda, or the agenda of others here?

why this site puts up with your insinuations, lies, and attacks on Christianity is beyond me.
 
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yeah, not what I said. I never once suggested it was OK to murder or assault LGBTQ people
I never said otherwise, but plenty are saying so.
you think that is my agenda, or the agenda of others here?
I didn't say it was yours, but it is the agenda of many on the right who are working hard to re-elect Trump. I see them posting it on social media every single day. LBGTQ are simply asking not to be murdered or assaulted, and apparently that's unacceptable for some.
 
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yeah, not what I said. I never once suggested it was OK to murder or assault LGBTQ people

and that is evident to everyone here.

you think that is my agenda, or the agenda of others here?

why this site puts up with your insinuations, lies, and attacks on Christianity is beyond me.
Disagreeing with you is not the same thing as "attacking Christianity."
 
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The agenda: teaching kids not to murder or assault LGBTQ citizens. I understand that some disagree with these teachings, which is unfortunate.
That is not true or accurate.
 
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First it's a denial. Now it's admittance and a further support of it pretty much more and more. Typical leftist playboock
I think the question is, is teaching about LGBT the same thing as "teaching LGBT?"
 
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The agenda: teaching kids not to murder or assault LGBTQ citizens. I understand that some disagree with these teachings, which is unfortunate.
Shouldn't we be teaching kids not to murder or assault anyone? What's so special about LGBT citizens that they get special treatment?
 
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Shouldn't we be teaching kids not to murder or assault anyone? What's so special about LGBT citizens that they get special treatment?

I think it's disingenuous to pretend as though sexual minorities have not faced a disproportionate amount of violence for being gay or trans or whatever. You don't need to support some "LGBT agenda" to be able to face that reality. We have cases like those of Matthew Shepherd and Brandon Tina that have occurred within the lifetimes of most people posting here, and those are just two cases that are high-profile enough to be able to immediately recalled due to their intense media coverage (and the Brandon Tina story being made into a movie).
 
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I think it's disingenuous to pretend as though sexual minorities have not faced a disproportionate amount of violence for being gay or trans or whatever. You don't need to support some "LGBT agenda" to be able to face that reality. We have cases like those of Matthew Shepherd and Brandon Tina that have occurred within the lifetimes of most people posting here, and those are just two cases that are high-profile enough to be able to immediately recalled due to their intense media coverage (and the Brandon Tina story being made into a movie).
First of all most assaults and murders of those in the LGBT community were committed by the LGBT community. Second of all Matthew Shepard was not not killed because he was gay.

And there have been plenty of people killed for various reasons. Including notorious gay serial killers.

Is it the schools job to tell.kids not to kill.gay people? Why do they get specialized treatment? We should be telling kids not to murder anyone.
 
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First of all most assaults and murders of those in the LGBT community were committed by the LGBT community. Second of all Matthew Shepard was not not killed because he was gay.

Matthew Shepherd's murderers attempted to use the "gay panic" defense in court, which would indicate that, yes, he was killed at least in part because he was gay (read: if he had been a straight man, there wouldn't be any basis for the "gay panic" defense in the first place, so even if that wasn't the only motivation, it was definitely in there).

Is it the schools job to tell.kids not to kill.gay people? Why do they get specialized treatment? We should be telling kids not to murder anyone.

Gay people are included in "everyone", aren't they? So I agree that the message should be "don't murder anyone", but I don't see how "don't murder people who identify as LGBT" isn't a part of that. You may not like that they're being singled out, but my point is that they'd probably say the same, given that they generally haven't been singled out for protection until very recently, historically-speaking.
 
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Gay people are included in "everyone", aren't they? So I agree that the message should be "don't murder anyone", but I don't see how "don't murder people who identify as LGBT" isn't a part of that. You may not like that they're being singled out, but my point is that they'd probably say the same, given that they generally haven't been singled out for protection until very recently, historically-speaking.

The original comment was about schools reaching kids not to kill gay people. Does the school really have classes now against murder? I would sincerely hope if they do they would be teaching everyone not to murder anyone. Are they telling gay kids not to kill gay people? Are they being honest about that? Because mist gays that are murdered are murdered by other gays.

They don't need special dispensation. They are people. Part of the human race. They aren't killed any more than any one else. And I'd sure like to see that curriculum against killing gay people that was talked about.

And no Shepard was not killed for being gay. The fact that he was gay is what created the sesationalism.
 
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