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ACNA and Rome Full Communion?

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I am going to be cross posting this in both the Anglican and RCC forums for input from both groups. Can anyone comment on the potential full communion and recognition of ACNA Hold Orders? I cam across this article and it is compelling to believe that we may be on the cusp of full communion between Rome and the ACNA. But how would that actually play out?
Article: Rome Moves Toward 'Full Communion' With Orthodox Anglicans
In a historic step, the Vatican is working toward "full communion" with conservative Anglicans by recognizing Anglican holy orders and churches without requiring "amalgamation or conversion."

The union will be based on a Malta II proposal presented by the Anglican Church of North America (ACNA), that revives the Malta I report agreed upon by Pope Paul VI and archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Michael Ramsey in 1966.

According to the Malta I proposals, differences in matters like Petrine primacy, infallibility, and Mariology, would be overcome by ensuring that "neither Communion is tied to a positive acceptance of all the beliefs and devotional practices of the other."
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he meetings have now been confirmed in an Ecumenical Relations Task Force Report released by the ACNA College of Bishops, who met at a provincial council from June 20-25, in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

The report reveals that Abp. Foley Beach, then-primate of ACNA; Bp. Eric Menees, chair of dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church; and Bp. Ray Sutton, presiding bishop of the Reformed Episcopal Church, flew to the Vatican for meetings at the DDF in June 2023.
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A high-level ACNA source told Souls and Liberty that "the door of union and mutual recognition of holy orders would remain open only for Anglican provinces that were orthodox and had not permitted the ordination of women or gay blessings/marriage."

"Rome has agreed to enter a separate dialogue with the ACNA and Global South Fellowship of Anglican Churches (GFSA) / Global Anglican Future Conference (GAFCON) part of Anglicanism. This dialogue will not include the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Church of England, the Anglican Church of Canada, or the The Episcopal Church," Sutton emphasized.

The ACNA proposals in September will also suggest ways that GAFCON and GFSA could be included in a broader dialogue.
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This is very interesting, and very surprising to me. I had thought that Rome would not be in full communion with anyone who does not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome and of the authority of the Catholic teaching office.

The ACNA and the GAFCON churches hold many orthodox Christian beliefs and practices, and if they've found that they can't be part of the Anglican Communion, I like this option which allows them to connect to a large, historic Christian church. I will watch with interest.

I'm interested in how our ACNA CF participants view this option. Is it a welcome option, or do you feel you would have to compromise too many beliefs and practices?
 
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PloverWing said:
This is very interesting, and very surprising to me. I had thought that Rome would not be in full communion with anyone who does not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome and of the authority of the Catholic teaching office.

The ACNA and the GAFCON churches hold many orthodox Christian beliefs and practices, and if they've found that they can't be part of the Anglican Communion, I like this option which allows them to connect to a large, historic Christian church. I will watch with interest.

I'm interested in how our ACNA CF participants view this option. Is it a welcome option, or do you feel you would have to compromise too many beliefs and practices?
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Do you know if there is any ACNA members on CF?
 
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I don't know much about ACNA, but I know enough GAFCON folks to think that's going nowhere fast.

Although this would seem to go against Apostolicae curae's comments about Anglican orders being "absolutely null and utterly void," so that's something.
 
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RileyG said:
Do you know if there is any ACNA members on CF?
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I know we have some non-Episcopalian Anglicans from the US here, but I don't remember whether we have anyone from the ACNA in particular. I haven't seen Albion here in a while, but @Shane R , do you have thoughts on the full communion proposal?
 
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Here's the most important paragraph in all of that:
A high-level ACNA source told Souls and Liberty that "the door of union and mutual recognition of holy orders would remain open only for Anglican provinces that were orthodox and had not permitted the ordination of women or gay blessings/marriage."

The ACNA is, by this criteria, excluded. Also, I'm not really sure why the Vatican would pay attention to a church with about 130,000 members or the even smaller Continuing Anglican movement. The Ordinariates came about because the Romans thought there were actually a bunch of people interested. They were tricked but they don't typically pay much attention to small-scale groups. I'm more optimistic they can work something out with the Copts than the ACNA.
 
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