DAVID MARCUS: De facto President Trump's handling of shutdown threat was a masterclass

[Always in His Presence]

A spending and policy bill. Most of the 1,300 pages that were trimmed were the policy portion.

Prove your claim. Along with proving that those policies did not include funding.

 

[Arcangl86]

Prove your claim. Along with proving that those policies did not include funding.

You're the one who claimed that the 1300 pages that were trimmed were pork, so if anybody needs to prove a claim it's you.

 

[durangodawood]

Yeah if you claim net spending was cut, show us the $ numbers!

 

[Always in His Presence]

You're the one who claimed that the 1300 pages that were trimmed were pork, so if anybody needs to prove a claim it's you.

You cannot back up your claim?

 

[Arcangl86]

You cannot back up your claim?

Can you back up yours?

 

[durangodawood]

You cannot back up your claim?

No one should be making claims about the comparative spending in these 2 bills without some real numbers to show off.

 

[wing2000]

There's a reason Trump/Musk talking points are focussed on the number of pages reduced....bragging about axing $190 Million dollars for treating children with cancer may not play so well.

"The initial compromise bill included language to ensure that providers of internet service to rural areas weren’t ripping off customers, to protect consumers from hidden hotel fees, to secure semiconductor supply chains, to restrict U.S. outbound investment in China, even to prohibit deepfake pornography. All those were all gone in the successor bill.

But some of the hardest cuts to swallow involved medical research. In particular, advocates say, the revised funding bill delivered a devastating blow to the fight against pediatric cancer.

The slimmed-down version was stripped of language that would have allowed children with relapsed cancer to undergo treatments with a combination of cancer drugs and therapies. (Currently the Food and Drug Administration is only authorized to direct pediatric cancer trials of single drugs.) The bill also didn’t include an extension of a program that gave financial lifelines, in the form of vouchers, to small pharmaceutical companies working on rare pediatric diseases. It was also missing earlier provisions that would have allowed for kids on Medicaid or CHIP—that is, poor children—to access medically complex care across state lines."

Elon Killed the Budget Deal. Cancer Research for Kids Was Collateral Damage.

Advocates were celebrating the inclusion of money and provisions to help fund pediatric research. And then the tweets started.

open.substack.com

 

[KCfromNC]

There's a reason Trump/Musk talking points are focussed on the number of pages reduced....bragging about axing $190 Million dollars for treating children with cancer may not play so well.

That, plus running away from the fact President Musk didn't help Donald accomplish his demand of eliminating the debt ceiling, I'd imagine.

 

[essentialsaltes]

This doesn't affect this coming year, but Republican decisiveness may save taxpayers some money down the line.

9/11 World Trade Center Health Program funding suffers setback. Fire unions sound off on Congress' failure to act.​

Funding for the World Trade Center Health Program past 2027 was excluded from the federal budget on Friday as Congress scrambled to avert a government shutdown.

 

[Always in His Presence]

This doesn't affect this coming year, but Republican decisiveness may save taxpayers some money down the line.

9/11 World Trade Center Health Program funding suffers setback. Fire unions sound off on Congress' failure to act.​

Funding for the World Trade Center Health Program past 2027 was excluded from the federal budget on Friday as Congress scrambled to avert a government shutdown.

Are we talking about the spending bill to keep the government open or the Federal Budget bill - two different thing

 

[Pommer]

Are we talking about the spending bill to keep the government open or the Federal Budget bill - two different thing

The budget bill hasn’t been brought up for a vote since the majority in the House hasn’t set one.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Are we talking about the spending bill to keep the government open or the Federal Budget bill - two different thing

Some of those cut pages included extensions of programs in the continuing resolution. Like the Children's Cancer program and this 9/11 program.

I don't think there's any reason to believe this funding can't be worked out by Congress in the time it has before FY 2027, but it's something that had already been worked out in the original bipartisan bill.

1547 pager

Making further continuing appropriations for the fiscal year ending September
30, 2025, and for other purposes.

TITLE IV—PUBLIC HEALTH EXTENDERS
Subtitle B—World Trade Center Health Program Sec. 411. 9/11 responder and survivor health funding corrections.

120 pager

No World Trade Center

 

[Always in His Presence]

Some of those cut pages included extensions of programs in the continuing resolution. Like the Children's Cancer program and this 9/11 program.

and... this is a stop gap bill - not the full budget

I don't think there's any reason to believe this funding can't be worked out by Congress in the time it has before FY 2027, but it's something that had already been worked out in the original bipartisan bill.

Then all this consternation is moot, or at the very most a dramatic pearl clutch.

Making further continuing appropriations for the fiscal year ending September
30, 2025, and for other purposes.

TITLE IV—PUBLIC HEALTH EXTENDERS
Subtitle B—World Trade Center Health Program Sec. 411. 9/11 responder and survivor health funding corrections.

No World Trade Center

Again - in the media's now eight year rush to make the President look as bad as possible - this is a STOP gap - not the full budget. Look at the dates the funds expire - 10 months from now - Yes, congress can move on each of them.

Good grief - if the man came out tomorrow with a cure for cancer the headlines would read "Trump puts thousands of doctors out of work"

 

[essentialsaltes]

Look at the dates the funds expire - 10 months from now

No, that's the date this fiscal year ends. The government is only funded until March 14.

 

[rjs330]

No, that's the date this fiscal year ends. The government is only funded until March 14.

And the budget can be done by then. This stop gap did not need to include on going continuing budget proposals. Otherwise every single ongoing budget item could be included in the bill and we might as well pass a full budget. This was an interrum bill. Not the budget.

 

[essentialsaltes]

And the budget can be done by then.

That seems hopelessly optimistic.

The last time the House GOP had a three month start, they got nothing done, and still haven't four months later.

The Republican House leaders set a goal in May of having a budget (implementing their conservative wishlist) done by August

 

[rjs330]

That seems hopelessly optimistic.

That may very well be. But it's real budget and not a stop gap.

 

[essentialsaltes]

That may very well be. But it's real budget and not a stop gap.

There is no 'it' yet on the table.

 

[rjs330]

There is no 'it' yet on the table.

Well, when it gets on the table it will be a real budget and not a stop gap. Sheesh.

 

[wing2000]

Again - in the media's now eight year rush to make the President look as bad as possible - this is a STOP gap - not the full budget. Look at the dates the funds expire - 10 months from now - Yes, congress can move on each of them.

The President elect or the Congress, whose job it is to pass these bills?

As fyi, the last Congress to pass a annual budget bill on time - occurred in 1996.