There sure is a lot of Trump haters here. Mostly repeating the mass media rhetoric.
What makes anyone think that "we the People" are getting anything close to the real truth from their television? On either side!
We'll probably have to wait until it is all over before we can learn the real truth about what really is and was going on behind the scenes.
It's been my experience that what ever your TV tells you, the exact opposite is likely true.
Except I don't watch TV news, other than when there is a major emergency that is "Breaking News" -- the one time recently I remember watching TV news was to see what happened at Haneda Airport with the plane on fire.
My opinions on the alleged fraud in the election is largely based off of the various court cases, researching the claims made by Trump supporters, etc. I have heard Giuliani, on a Pennsylvania election case, telling the judge -- and making sure he is 100% clear -- that he is not claiming any fraud occurred (despite what he claimed in his press conferences).
I read the trial judgement of a case in Michigan where a judge goes through the various complaints about election irregularities. He shows that many of the "complaints" are people who don't understand how ballots are counting and are complaining about how the actual procedures were followed -- which they would have known if they'd attended the pre-vote training courses that went over those topics. For example, the complaints about how votes were coming in through a "back door" at the arena; when, in fact, the door was next to the loading dock and that was the designated door where all ballots were to come into the arena. Then, there were other complaints, such as that a van brought in boxes of ballots -- when it turns out it was actually a cameraman for a local TV station who was bringing in his camera equipment so they could have live updates from the ballot counting.
There is also the video from an Arizona courtroom where Trump lawyers admit they were soliciting "complaints" about the election and did not bother to vet all the complaints to find out if they were authentic. The lawyers were forced to admit that many of the complaints were fake and they did try to remove the obvious fake ones but did no research to determine if any of the complaints were valid, or if others were fake (just not "obviously" fake).
There was the list of out of state voters in Nevada that the Trump campaign released. And, as I mentioned in my previous post, a large number of the "out of state addresses" were either addresses in military housing, or from cities where there are military bases. Basically, it appeared that most of the "out of state addresses" were military members who still had Nevada as their legal residence, and were legally voting.
There was the Arizona "audit," where the Trump-supporting company Cyber Ninjas led an audit and recount of the Arizona 2020 Presidential vote and found that Biden won by an even greater margin, due to some mistakes in the original count. A partisan audit run by the Republicans of the Arizona Senate by a company trying to prove Trump won could find no evidence of fraud, instead they found that Biden won by more than was claimed.
Last, there was the defamation lawsuit against Giuliani by two Georgia election workers, were Giuliani ended up admitting that the claims of them pulling out suitcases of ballots and recounting hundreds of ballots multiple times were false -- something the full video, not the edited snippets that Giuliani showed to "prove" what he claimed, makes clear, as well.
It is worth nothing that Trump recently released his "evidence" on Truth Social -- and the list he provided are largely the same claims made in 2020 that have largely been debunked. Maybe Trump has something left, something he is saving for his upcoming trial in Georgia, but it does not appear so. The evidence of some type of massive fraud in the 2020 election just does not exist, or at least still hasn't been found.
