Trump Hails Victory for Constitution, Rule of Law, 'Victory for Life'

[Oompa Loompa]

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Hailing the "big news" of the Supreme Court decision to bounce abortion back to the states, former President Donald Trump said conservatives' decades of "love, sacrifice, and devotion has finally been rewarded."

"The court handed down a victory for the Constitution, a victory for the rule of law, and above all, a victory for life," Trump told a Save America rally in Mendon, Illinois, on Saturday night, which aired live on Newsmax.

"This breakthrough is the answer to the prayers of millions and millions of people, and these prayers have gone on for decades. For decades and decades they've been praying, and now those prayers have been answered to the generations of Americans in the pro-life movement, as well as countless constitutional conservatives.

Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

 

[Nithavela]

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Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

Not really, it will lead to an increase in unlawful behavious (smuggling of abortion drugs, secret back alley abortions etc.).

 

[DaisyDay]

Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

I don’t see how.

And I doubt Trump would recognize the Constitution if it bit him down under.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

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Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

Well, laws are meaningless if people refuse to obey them. You can pile laws up to the moon and that changes nothing. As with guns. If they make guns illegal then I am sure all the criminals will be disappointed that they can no longer rob and murder because the weapons are illegal.
Right...
So let's make everything legal and then there will be absolutely no crime. No jails, no police, no prisons. Utopian on earth!

 

[Pavel Mosko]

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Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

Yes because even certain liberals like Ruth Bader Ginsberg recognized how flawed Roe V Wade was.

Kicking things back to the states is much more "Democratic" than simply taking a decision of some high end unelected judges who come up with some new Judicial midrash type interpretation, inventing a new right out of thin air (Something never explicitly enumerated in the original Constitution, nor added in later using the established system of amendments).

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Yes because even certain liberals like Ruth Bader Ginsberg recognized how flawed Roe V Wade was.

Kicking things back to the states is much more "Democratic" than simply taking a decision of some high end unelected judges who come up with some new Judicial midrash type interpretation, inventing a new right out of thin air (Something never explicitly enumerated in the original Constitution, nor added in later using the established system of amendments).

Agreed. However it is ironic that many on the left claim that "democracy is dying" merely because the Supreme Court left the decision of abortion up to the ELECTED OFFICIALS who represent their constituents. You know...like how "democracy" works.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Agreed. However it is ironic that many on the left claim that "democracy is dying" merely because the Supreme Court left the decision of abortion up to the ELECTED OFFICIALS who represent their constituents. You know...like how "democracy" works.

Why would a government official be the one to determine women's reproductive rights? The matter should be between a woman and her doctor not her representative.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Agreed. However it is ironic that many on the left claim that "democracy is dying" merely because the Supreme Court left the decision of abortion up to the ELECTED OFFICIALS who represent their constituents. You know...like how "democracy" works.

There is another problem as well. Our society is not suppose to be this dependent on the Supreme Court.

Some commenters I've listened to mentioned that law makers have gotten lazy and began using the Supreme Court to take off heat from them when it came to making legislative decisions that could go the wrong way and cost them popularity. I don't quite get the dynamics except that the point is probably true, because we live in age where it seems like Freedom itself is in peril if the court swings too far one way and you are on the opposing side and there was much less drama when it comes to that in our earlier years, except for the time of FDR where the court was his biggest obstacle to the New Deal and court packing was something really contemplated.

 

[Saucy]

Yep, just like gun laws won't work and will lead to more criminality. In reality, this law doesn't abolish abortion. The judges didn't levy an opinion on their view of abortion. They rightfully said that abortion is not a right under the constitution. And it's not. Roe should've never been passed in the first place.

 

[BravoM]

Yes.
What so many of "them" whine about is thinking it's going to be illegal in the U.S.
All it does is return the power of abortion decision BACK to the states as it was before Roe.
They want to FORCE us to pay more in taxes and force us to accept more big government. Less government is what is best.
This absurd idea that "More people will die if it is illegal" is insane. There are some people, largely women who are so delusional, so mentally warped they have it in their mind they'll kill themselves, pregnant or not, now that this is done.
If they do that is all on them. This world has a people problem and a lack of God problem.

 

[inquiring mind]

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Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

It's hard to disagree with Trump... he usually gets things right. Looking forward to a return of the 'glory days' when he's back in office.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yes because even certain liberals like Ruth Bader Ginsberg recognized how flawed Roe V Wade was.

Kicking things back to the states is much more "Democratic" than simply taking a decision of some high end unelected judges who come up with some new Judicial midrash type interpretation, inventing a new right out of thin air (Something never explicitly enumerated in the original Constitution, nor added in later using the established system of amendments).

Do you know what the 9th Amendment stipulates?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I don’t see how.

And I doubt Trump would recognize the Constitution if it bit him down under.

Can you show me where in the constitution that there is a right to an abortion? If so, why couldn't three Supreme Court justices implement it in their 66 page dessention opinion? Of there was any opportunity to bring up the constitutional opposition, that was the time. But they filled he whole 66 pages of nothing but, "We like abortions so we thing Roe should stand." I would argue that they didn't because, regardless of what you have been told, it is all nonsense and doomed to fail.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Do you know what the 9th Amendment stipulates?

According to the rulings of the supreme court, it means nothing, regardless of what you were told, towards abortion. Otherwise, why didn't the dissenting opinions mention the 9th ammendment? Why? Because they even knew it was unconstitutional nonsense intended to sway the masses towards the liberal cause. Even RBG said that Roe was destined to fail be because it was so unconstitutional and so poorly written. So...?

 

[DaisyDay]

Can you show me where in the constitution that there is a right to an abortion? If so, why couldn't three Supreme Court justices implement it in their 66 page dessention opinion? Of there was any opportunity to bring up the constitutional opposition, that was the time. But they filled he whole 66 pages of nothing but, "We like abortions so we thing Roe should stand." I would argue that they didn't because, regardless of what you have been told, it is all nonsense and doomed to fail.

What has all that jibber jabber got to do with the former guy not knowing what is in the Constitution or with his thinking that he is above it?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

What has all that jibber jabber got to do with the former guy not knowing what is in the Constitution or with his thinking that he is above it?

What does your comment have to do with the topic of this thread?

 

[DaisyDay]

According to the rulings of the supreme court, it means nothing, regardless of what you were told, towards abortion. Otherwise, why didn't the dissenting opinions mention the 9th ammendment? Why? Because they even knew it was unconstitutional nonsense intended to sway the masses towards the liberal cause. Even RBG said that Roe was destined to fail be because it was so unconstitutional and so poorly written. So...?

So that’s a no, then - you don’t know what the 9th Amendment says.

 

[DaisyDay]

What does your comment have to do with the topic of this thread?

It has to do with your non sequiter reply to my comment, obviously.

 

[DaisyDay]

The point is not about what I think the 9th Ammendmet says. It is why the 9th Ammendment was not implemented in the desention arguments? Why? Because, regardless of the propaganda that was presented to you, even the court justices knew it was complete and utter B.S. aka "nonsense".

Still a “no, no clue” then?

 

[BobRyan]

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Do you agree with Trump. Is the Supreme Court decision a win for the rule of law?

yes. and a victory for a bit more besides.