Paid Sick Leave During Health Emergencies bill blocked by GOP

[dogs4thewin]

I mean long term health conditions, what does a person in the US with a long term health condition do to get treatment? Insurance policies have caps, medical treatment is expensive - what are the options?

that is what I was saying there are programs like Medicaid and Medicare if you qualify Medicare being the better option as more doctors tend to take it ( particularly doctors that treat those types of conditions regularly. Some doctors and most hospitals will also work out payment plans ( especially with long-term patients they know have a record of paying in the past.

 

[Isilwen]

Why do the bosses not send them home? As common sense says that is just dangerous.

Because 9 times out of 10, we don't see our supervisors during our shift. Last time I saw mine was three weeks ago when he worked half a shift with me and his girlfriend the other half.

Before that it had been two months.

If they cannot see you, they don't know unless you tell them.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Because 9 times out of 10, we don't see our supervisors during our shift. Last time I saw mine was three weeks ago when he worked half a shift with me and his girlfriend the other half.

Before that it had been two months.

If they cannot see you, they don't know unless you tell them.

Well, in that case honest question why do the other EMTS not put pressure on them to go home ( or rat them out by say saying calling the supervisor themselves.

 

[Isilwen]

Well, in that case honest question why do the other EMTS not put pressure on them to go home ( or rat them out by say saying calling the supervisor themselves.

Because, if you rat them out, then the second you do something wrong, no matter how minor it is, like don't wash the outside of the truck one night after your shift, or you get a little angry at a nurse because they aren't doing their job, or you complain that they dropped another call on you after your off time, they will rat you out.

Another reason is that if they go home, so do you, and if they are out the next two shifts, so are you, and you may not get sick, but you lose out on pay anyway because your partner is out and they don't have someone to cover his/her shifts.

I will only bring attention to someone by my supervisor if they have done something serious.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Because, if you rat them out, then the second you do something wrong, no matter how minor it is, like don't wash the outside of the truck one night after your shift, or you get a little angry at a nurse because they aren't doing their job, or you complain that they dropped another call on you after your off time, they will rat you out.

Another reason is that if they go home, so do you, and if they are out the next two shifts, so are you, and you may not get sick, but you lose out on pay anyway because your partner is out and they don't have someone to cover his/her shifts.

I will only bring attention to someone by my supervisor if they have done something serious.

I am no EMT, but I would think it would be better to rat them out and take those risks as opposed to not rat them out and maybe get patients sicker who may or may not have the ability to fight off other problems.

 

[Isilwen]

I am no EMT, but I would think it would be better to rat them out and take those risks as opposed to not rat them out and maybe get patients sicker who may or may not have the ability to fight off other problems.

Not if you are counting on getting paid. To lose out on 2 1/2 days of pay, is a bit to swallow.

Just two days at our starting hourly rate is over $350. Don't forget that we work 13 hour shifts if we work three days and 24 hour shifts if we work two days.

 

[SarahsKnight]

I do not know any one who thinks that IF you need help, but I know plenty of people who are NOT OK with the help being abused

So in order to make sure the few who may abuse the system not be able to get away with it, we'll punish everyone. When likely a lot of them do truly need the help.

Sorry, that's just what these kinds of posts seem to be saying whenever I see them in the debate section.

 

[Desk trauma]

So in order to make sure the few who may abuse the system not be able to, we'll punish everyone. When likely a lot of them do truly need the help.

It's the American way apparently.

 

[dogs4thewin]

So in order to make sure the few who may abuse the system not be able to, we'll punish everyone. When likely a lot of them do truly need the help.

I feel that it is better for people to be helped ( if it must be by the government on the local level.

 

[SarahsKnight]

I feel that it is better for people to be helped ( if it must be by the government on the local level.

That's good to hear, at least.

 

[dogs4thewin]

That's good to hear, at least.

because think about the more local the more likely people are to know the people they are helping.

 

[jgarden]

Paid Sick Leave During Health Emergencies bill blocked by GOP

Given that the Trump Administration has bungled their response to the coronavirus pandemic at every turn, at least they're being consistent!

Only the Republicans could be so shortsighted as to expect Americans workers to do the right thing by staying home so as not to infect others, but not get compensated!

Apparently Republicans and the Trump Administration don't trust average Americans - the real question is why they would expect average Americans to place their trust in them?

 

[98cwitr]

"workers could use the 14 emergency sick days if their workplace or their child’s school is closed"

Senate GOP Blocks Emergency Paid Sick Leave Bill

I think that's the sticky part. If no one is sick, you shouldn't be on sick leave.

 

[Nithavela]

"workers could use the 14 emergency sick days if their workplace or their child’s school is closed"

Senate GOP Blocks Emergency Paid Sick Leave Bill

I think that's the sticky part. If no one is sick, you shouldn't be on sick leave.

In germany it's absolutely normal to get leave when your child is sick, so you should also get sick days when there is a quaranteen.

 

[rjs330]

You have a real high impression of employers. This is an employers market, not an employees market. There are enough looking for jobs who want demand anything, just to get a job.

No this is an employees market not an employers one. With low unemployment comes a shortage of workers. Right now workers have the power not the employers.

 

[FireDragon76]

I am currently staying home from work without getting paid because I am privileged enough to be in an economic situation where I can afford to do so until I know what's going on in NYC. A lot of people do not have that opportunity--they cannot make the "common sense" decision to stay home when they're sick because they might not be able to make rent if they aren't getting paid for even a couple of days.

Mandated sick leave is necessary, because otherwise people who cannot afford to stay home are going to hide the fact that they might have coronavirus and will wander around infecting everyone else. This is not "be smart and be responsible." This is a public health emergency. The GOP is either too stupid to figure out how reality works, or they are actively trying to kill us.

Ideology over public health. Why am I not surprised?

 

[Isilwen]

No this is an employees market not an employers one. With low unemployment comes a shortage of workers. Right now workers have the power not the employers.

Lol... thank you! I need the laugh!

 

[iluvatar5150]

I have already been looking for work from home jobs, but I need a quiet place to work and I have a dog that barks randomly in a small apartment. So, those are out. Can't find just plain data entry jobs either.

As an EMT, that is all I know to do.

I used to do at-home transcription work for Productive Playhouse. It’s been about a year since I’ve done it, so idk if they’re looking for help, but if it piques your interest, send me a PM.

 

[Isilwen]

I am routinely told when asking for something from my company that there are other companies out there if I want something more than I have.

If this were truly a employee's market, my job would jump at the chance to make me happy and not lose me to another company, especially when I have seniority there over 99% of the other people.

 

[rjs330]

I have no issue with providing funding for people who are required to be quarantined. If you are then I have no problem with providing their wages due to public safety reasons.

I don't think employers who have no sick leave payments should be required to have them.

We shouldn't be paying for loss of wages for any other reason.