abusers of themselves w/ mankind

[truthHurts77]

I don't remember where i read those words in the Bible but i did...

and my concordance is not veyr exhaustive


but anyway,

it seems wht this means is that those who sin... "abuse themselsve with mankind"

adulterers

fornicators

homosexuals

its just a big abuse fest with them...

i mean, you know... since sex outside of marriage is...

abuse.. hurt feelings, broken homes...

anyway, if you know where that psg is in the Bible, i would like to know...

i think i tried to google it and got nowhere..

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

 

[DamianWarS]

I don't remember where i read those words in the Bible but i did...
and my concordance is not veyr exhaustive
but anyway,
it seems wh[a]t this means is that those who sin... "abuse themselsve with mankind"
adulterers
fornicators
homosexuals
its just a big abuse fest with them...
i mean, you know... since sex outside of marriage is...
abuse.. hurt feelings, broken homes...
anyway, if you know where that psg is in the Bible, i would like to know...

as InSpiritInTruth already mentioned the verse is:

1 Corinthians 6:9 (KJV)
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

this wording only appears in the KJV and only in this verse. This is one greek word ἀρσενοκοίτης (arsenokoites) This is some what of a controversial Greek word both in definition and origins that actually some think to be invented by Paul himself by combining the words "man" (arsen) and "bed" (koitai) Its biblical use only appears in one other area which is 1 Timothy 1:10 and of course another Pauline epistle. The word is more commonly translated as homosexual. Your definition seems to be closer not to the isolated word itself but instead the greater point of what Paul was getting at in 1 Corinthians 6:9.

i think i tried to google it and got nowhere..

here let me help you.... "abuse themselsve with mankind" - Google results (even with the spelling error and different wording it still yields the first result)

 

[Cuddles333]

http://www.clgs.org/arsenokoités-and-malakos-meanings-and-consequences


This link is a 'must' study in order to understand these two Koine Greek words.

 

[truthHurts77]

1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

thank you.

i may just commit that to the old memory banks

sin is very abusive...

so much for once saved always saved...

 

[truthHurts77]

as InSpiritInTruth already mentioned the verse is:

1 Corinthians 6:9 (KJV)
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

this wording only appears in the KJV and only in this verse. This is one greek word ἀρσενοκοίτης (arsenokoites) This is some what of a controversial Greek word both in definition and origins that actually some think to be invented by Paul himself by combining the words "man" (arsen) and "bed" (koitai) Its biblical use only appears in one other area which is 1 Timothy 1:10 and of course another Pauline epistle. The word is more commonly translated as homosexual. Your definition seems to be closer not to the isolated word itself but instead the greater point of what Paul was getting at in 1 Corinthians 6:9.



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thanks... but why are we using Greek?

also, i dont know which word u r referring to in the second paragraph, 1st sentence...

 

[brevis]

thanks... but why are we using Greek?

also, i dont know which word u r referring to in the second paragraph, 1st sentence...

Because the Bible was originally written in Greek, and sometimes it is not easy to find an exact word when you translate from one language to another.

With arseinokotes the thing is even trickier (lit. it means something like man-bed)

 

[Radagast]

With arseinokotes the thing is even trickier (lit. it means something like man-bed)

I believe that Paul gets the word from the Greek (Septuagint) version of Leviticus 20:13: καὶ ὃς ἂν κοιμηθῇ μετά ἄρσενος (arsenos) κοίτην (koitēn) γυναικός, βδέλυγμα ἐποίησαν ἀμφότεροι· θανάτῳ θανατούσθωσαν, ἔνοχοί εἰσιν = And whoever shall lie with a male as with a woman, they have both wrought abomination; let them die the death, they are guilty.

 

[Rick Otto]

thank you.

i may just commit that to the old memory banks

sin is very abusive...

so much for once saved always saved...

?? If you forget where a verse is you lose salvation?

 

[weathered]

And whoever shall lie with a male as with a woman, they have both wrought abomination; let them die the death, they are guilty.

Is that an exact translation from the Greek? And what do you think that verse means? Should they die at the steak like witches, or should they not bother to repent and come to jesus because they are already lost? Lying is also an abomination i think, should liars die the death too?

 

[weathered]

Whatever it means, fornicators, homosexuals, idolaters, thieves and drunkards can be washed clean by the blood of Christ. The good news

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
1Co

 

[truthHurts77]

Because the Bible was originally written in Greek, and sometimes it is not easy to find an exact word when you translate from one language to another.

With arseinokotes the thing is even trickier (lit. it means something like man-bed)

i would tend to think the absolute first writings were in Aramaic or Hebrew

 

[Rick Otto]

thank you. i may just commit that to the old memory banks sin is very abusive...
so much for once saved always saved...

?? If you forget where a verse is you lose salvation?

So much for Catholics understanding Protestant theology?

 

[brevis]

i would tend to think the absolute first writings were in Aramaic or Hebrew

In most of the OT, but the NT is mainly Greek as far as we know, and in any case, we can only examine the manuscripts that have remained.

 

[truthHurts77]

In most of the OT, but the NT is mainly Greek as far as we know, and in any case, we can only examine the manuscripts that have remained.

i am glad i am in the ChurchChrist founded, the RC Church

all this stuff (well, a lot of it) has been dealt with.. by those with more knowledge than i

the Church goes back to the first fathers, some of whom knew the apostles

 

[brevis]

i am glad i am in the ChurchChrist founded, the RC Church

all this stuff (well, a lot of it) has been dealt with.. by those with more knowledge than i

the Church goes back to the first fathers, some of whom knew the apostles

Yes, but you can learn too