Anyone notice that many people are scientifically illiterate

Landon Caeli · Apr 19, 2024

Estrid said:
As a general thing, fundamentalists are
at the lowest, Jews at the highest education
level.

Jews are at the highest education level due to genetics, not religion. Just to be clearer.

Reasonably Sane · Apr 19, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
So true and that's awesome. I'm currently reversing the effects of my Type 2 diabetes by limiting high carb foods, especially the added sugars that companies put in them. A1c of 7.9 to 6.2 in three years, I thank covid for getting me to look into health.

That last line cracked me up. The Lord can use EVERYTHING for good. And yeah, I have to say that when I'm visiting my in-laws in the Chicago area and am exposed to the broadcast TV there, I'm shocked at all the ads. The comical part for me is that I seem to notice a LOT of ads that are actually related and fall into two categories:
1. Food ads. From fast food, to sit down places, to sugary breakfast cereal and everything in between. Virtually all of it grossly unhealthy.
2. Drugs to fix all the problems that diet brings.

AV1611VET · Apr 19, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Who wrote Genesis?

Laodicean60 said:
That's a good question.

This sounds plausible to me:

Adam wrote Genesis 1 - 3
Seth wrote Genesis 4 - 5
Noah wrote Genesis 6 - 9
Shem wrote Genesis 10 - 11
Abraham wrote Genesis 12 -25

... etc ...

Michie · Apr 19, 2024

Moses is traditionally considered the author of Genesis.

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Laodicean60 · Apr 19, 2024

AV1611VET said:
Adam wrote Genesis

There were a lot of oral translations before it was put on paper or whatever they used back then.

AV1611VET · Apr 19, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
There were a lot of oral translations before it was put on paper or whatever they used back then.

Who orated it to Adam, when Adam & Seth wrote his book?

Genesis 5:1a This is the book of the generations of Adam.

BNR32FAN · Apr 19, 2024

AV1611VET said:
This sounds plausible to me:

Adam wrote Genesis 1 - 3
Seth wrote Genesis 4 - 5
Noah wrote Genesis 6 - 9
Shem wrote Genesis 10 - 11
Abraham wrote Genesis 12 -25

... etc ...

How could Adam write what took place before he was created? The first 5 books of the Hebrew Bible are accredited to Moses.

Michie · Apr 19, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
How could Adam write what took place before he was created? The first 5 books of the Hebrew Bible are accredited to Moses.

The postmosiaca passages after Mose’s death is the mystery. But most likely added editorials continuing the events that took place after his death.

**What about postmosaica passages?**

But to say that the composition, even the origins, of the Pentateuch is to be associated with Moses certainly does not mean he wrote every word. Traditional approaches to this question acknowledge that Moses did not write the entirety of the Pentateuch when they point to a so-called postmosaica.

Postmosaica are passages that had to be written after the death of Moses, and of course, the most obvious postmosaica is the account of his death in Deuteronomy 34. There are postmosaica in the book of Genesis as well.

While Ur is an ancient city predating Moses, the reference to Ur of the Chaldeans (see Genesis 11:31) is a postmosaica since the Chaldeans were an Aramaic-speaking tribe that lived in the first millennium BC, long after the death of Moses.

In Genesis 14:14 the narrator reports that Abram chased the four ancient Near Eastern kings who kidnapped Lot “as far as Dan.” This reference to the city of Dan is a postmosaica because this city, earlier called Laish, was not named Dan until the time of the Judges (see Judges 18), and of course the name derived from the tribe of Dan, named after Jacob’s son Dan, Abraham’s great grandson.

* Sorry about the bold lettering. I could not get it back to normal text for some reason.

Estrid · Apr 19, 2024

Michie said:
The postmosiaca passages after Mose’s death is the mystery. But most likely added editorials continuing the events that took place after his death.

What about postmosaica passages?

But to say that the composition, even the origins, of the Pentateuch is to be associated with Moses certainly does not mean he wrote every word. Traditional approaches to this question acknowledge that Moses did not write the entirety of the Pentateuch when they point to a so-called postmosaica.

Postmosaica are passages that had to be written after the death of Moses, and of course, the most obvious postmosaica is the account of his death in Deuteronomy 34. There are postmosaica in the book of Genesis as well.

While Ur is an ancient city predating Moses, the reference to Ur of the Chaldeans (see Genesis 11:31) is a postmosaica since the Chaldeans were an Aramaic-speaking tribe that lived in the first millennium BC, long after the death of Moses.

In Genesis 14:14 the narrator reports that Abram chased the four ancient Near Eastern kings who kidnapped Lot “as far as Dan.” This reference to the city of Dan is a postmosaica because this city, earlier called Laish, was not named Dan until the time of the Judges (see Judges 18), and of course the name derived from the tribe of Dan, named after Jacob’s son Dan, Abraham’s great grandson.

* Sorry about the bold lettering. I could not get it back to normal text for some reason.

Could you try to stay on topic?

sfs · Apr 19, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
I don’t read commentaries my theology is the result of my own studies. If your aware of the Mitzvah how could you possibly think that it Genesis could be edited without anyone knowing?

I don't know what you mean by 'the Mitzvah'. The word 'mitzvah' means any commandment and also (in contemporary Jewish usage) a good deed. What specific commandment are you talking about?

BNR32FAN said:
Now according to all this did Paul actually teach that all preachers are chosen by God?

No. Why do you ask -- I've never suggested they were. And why won't you answer the question? Those teachers who are chosen by God -- are they immune from making mistakes?

sfs · Apr 19, 2024

Aaron112 said:
The ones chosen and appointed by God were inspired by God as God Says Directly, not motivated by man's initiative or reasonings.

Your response doesn't seem to have anything to do with the point in question. Do teachers who have been called by God -- something Paul says God does to equip the church -- do those teachers ever make mistakes in their teaching?

sfs · Apr 19, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Who wrote Genesis?

No one knows. Certainly more than one person.

Michie · Apr 19, 2024

Estrid said:
Could you try to stay on topic?

I was answering a post.

Reasonably Sane · Apr 19, 2024

AV1611VET said:
This sounds plausible to me:

Adam wrote Genesis 1 - 3
Seth wrote Genesis 4 - 5
Noah wrote Genesis 6 - 9
Shem wrote Genesis 10 - 11
Abraham wrote Genesis 12 -25

... etc ...

I agree that it probably had multiple authors, but I'm guessing all the authors lived after the Flood. But the key word is "guessing".

Reasonably Sane · Apr 19, 2024

sfs said:
Your response doesn't seem to have anything to do with the point in question. Do teachers who have been called by God -- something Paul says God does to equip the church -- do those teachers ever make mistakes in their teaching?

Ask Joel Osteen.

Estrid · Apr 19, 2024

Reasonably Sane said:
I agree that it probably had multiple authors, but I'm guessing all the authors lived after the Flood. But the key word is "guessing".

What does that have to do with scientific
illiteracy?

Laodicean60 · Apr 19, 2024

Reasonably Sane said:
That last line cracked me up. The Lord can use EVERYTHING for good. And yeah, I have to say that when I'm visiting my in-laws in the Chicago area and am exposed to the broadcast TV there, I'm shocked at all the ads. The comical part for me is that I seem to notice a LOT of ads that are actually related and fall into two categories:
1. Food ads. From fast food, to sit down places, to sugary breakfast cereal and everything in between. Virtually all of it grossly unhealthy.
2. Drugs to fix all the problems that diet brings.

Pink Floyd's "Money" all you have to do is follow it. This video makes sense because it's all about money starting with food:
Everything Wrong with the Healthcare System in Less than 20 Minutes

Laodicean60 · Apr 19, 2024

AV1611VET said:
Who orated it to Adam, when Adam & Seth wrote his book?

Genesis 5:1a This is the book of the generations of Adam.

We have different beliefs on the creation account. I believe God created the heavens and the earth with everything on the earth and the process I won't try to guess.
In science tracing our genes back through modern genetic sequencing, it's found to be 200K old.

For me, this isn't worth arguing over. Peace Out

BNR32FAN · Apr 19, 2024

sfs said:
I don't know what you mean by 'the Mitzvah'. The word 'mitzvah' means any commandment and also (in contemporary Jewish usage) a good deed. What specific commandment are you talking about?

I specifically mentioned which Mitzvah

BNR32FAN said:
Imagination prompted by God is a vision which is from God.

Theological insights from God is again from God and God has never once chosen someone to deliver a message who failed to deliver it exactly how He intended.

The Mitzvah, a commandment given in Moses’ time, was a commandment that all Jews have to write a Torah of their own which consists of the books Moses wrote. So your talking about altering something that has been written millions of times by Jews for the last 3,500 years that would be punishable by death and hoping that nobody noticed?

satan told Moses to write Genesis? Moses the prophet who had two way conversations directly with God on almost a daily basis for several decades?

If you know anything about the Bible then you know there are no other gods.

So you know exactly which one I was referring to. So I’ll ask again your talking about altering something that has been written millions of times by Jews for the last 3,500 years that would be punishable by death and hoping that nobody noticed?

BNR32FAN · Apr 19, 2024

sfs said:
I don't know what you mean by 'the Mitzvah'. The word 'mitzvah' means any commandment and also (in contemporary Jewish usage) a good deed. What specific commandment are you talking about?

No. Why do you ask -- I've never suggested they were. And why won't you answer the question? Those teachers who are chosen by God -- are they immune from making mistakes?

Yes the ones who are chosen to deliver a specific message never make mistakes, I made that clear when I said that God never chooses someone to deliver a message who will not deliver the message exactly the way He intended it.

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