Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence.

[7thKeeper]

I think that it says something that you appear to believe the lies of the political party in power that is willing to do almost anything to keep that power.

Trump? Not at all. Though he isn't exactly in power. But do tell, what political party is involved in this trial? Besides a few members of the Republican party on location, I don't see how either party is involved in this. It's a criminal trial after all, those are lawyers and judges there, not politicians. This is just you not accepting that someone you've backed has possibly done something illegal and cry "politics" as a distraction.

 

[Clare73]

Fringe extremists supporting Trump don't represent the vast majority of Americans who shall be voting for Donald Trump this November.

Fringe extremists are created by the extreme policies they oppose.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So, Newt and Rush happened in 2011, and I didn't read much news back then in the early 2010s, as a lot of it was war stuff (Arab spring, Afghanistan, etc). Even so, politics was much tamer back then: Rush Limbaugh signals support for Newt Gingrich

Newt and Rush were pretty much over by 2011 (especially Newt), and they certainly do not represent a tamer, less partisan brand of politics. Both peaked in the mid-90s.

If there is one person who created the highly partisan atmosphere in the US Congress it was Newt Gingrich in his rise to power in the 1990s and then his Speakership.

Rush was very much about the politics of attack, truth was optional. His "veil" of equal opportunity criticism dropped and dropped hard in 1993 when Clinton became president.

 

[Pommer]

Newt and Rush were pretty much over by 2011 (especially Newt), and they certainly do not represent a tamer, less partisan brand of politics. Both peaked in the mid-90s.

If there is one person who created the highly partisan atmosphere in the US Congress it was Newt Gingrich in his rise to power in the 1990s and then his Speakership.

Rush was very much about the politics of attack, truth was optional. His "veil" of equal opportunity criticism dropped and dropped hard in 1993 when Clinton became president.

Agreed.
@AlexB23 before Newt, we had a mixed Congress.
Not only were there Republicans and Democrats, there were liberal and conservative members spread throughout each party.

The upshot was an intersectionality betwixt party and ideology.
If a bill couldn’t be passed on the party-line, it could still become a law if the ideological ducks could be aligned.

What Newt (et. al.) did was to make the Republican Party wholly conservative (over the course of a decade and a half), this gave us the “uniparty” of today’s politics. There is no “middle” and both parties are beholden to their extreme wings.

 

[Vambram]

With so much evidence of DJT's alleged crimes, it astonishes me that God fearing Christians continue to choose him as their leader. IMHO it is idolatry of the highest order.

With so much evidence of the immorality of the positions of the Democratic Party and with so much evidence of the crookedness and corruption of Joe Biden and his family, I am always astonished that God fearing Christians continue to want to vote for Joe Biden and the rest of the leaders of the Democratic Party. IMHO, that appears to be a form of idolatry.

 

[Vambram]

Trump? Not at all. Though he isn't exactly in power. But do tell, what political party is involved in this trial? Besides a few members of the Republican party on location, I don't see how either party is involved in this. It's a criminal trial after all, those are lawyers and judges there, not politicians. This is just you not accepting that someone you've backed has possibly done something illegal and cry "politics" as a distraction.

Are you blind to the fact that each and every prosecutor and judge, with only one exception, that has brought Trump to trial or has seen to that he was indicted within these last couple of years are Democrats? Do you actually believe that the district attorneys and the judges in New York on those cases are NOT POLITICAL people?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

With so much evidence of the immorality of the positions of the Democratic Party and with so much evidence of the crookedness and corruption of Joe Biden and his family, I am always astonished that God fearing Christians continue to want to vote for Joe Biden and the rest of the leaders of the Democratic Party. IMHO, that appears to be a form of idolatry.

One day you will see. Right now you are as Michael Cohen said he was...knee deep in the DJT cult.

 

[Vambram]

One day you will see. Right now you are as Michael Cohen said he was...knee deep in the DJT cult.

You are Flaming and insulting me. I am a born again Christian saved by the grace and mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ. You have labeled a MOST serious insult upon me and my faith in the Lord God.

 

[7thKeeper]

With so much evidence of the immorality of the positions of the Democratic Party and with so much evidence of the crookedness and corruption of Joe Biden and his family, I am always astonished that God fearing Christians continue to want to vote for Joe Biden and the rest of the leaders of the Democratic Party. IMHO, that appears to be a form of idolatry.

And yet, you support a person whose current wife was his mistress during his second wife, who was his mistress during his first wife. And who cheated on his third wife while she was pregnant. And that's just the stuff regarding his marriages/relationships. And you want to talk about how God fearing Christians could vote for someone else? (Staff Edit)

 

[Clare73]

And yet, you support a person whose current wife was his mistress during his second while, who was his mistress during his first wife. And who cheated on his third wife while she was pregnant. And that's just the stuff regarding his marriages/relationships. And you want to talk about how God fearing Christians could vote for someone else? Pretty damn rich.

And David, king of Israel and type of Christ?

 

[7thKeeper]

Are you blind to the fact that each and every prosecutor and judge, with only one exception, that has brought Trump to trial or has seen to that he was indicted within these last couple of years are Democrats? Do you actually believe that the district attorneys and the judges in New York on those cases are NOT POLITICAL people?

They are judges and prosecutors, not politicians. They work within the confines of law. You seem to be merely upset that someone who you align with politically is being prosecuted and cry wolf, but seem less interested/worried if he has actually done something illegal.

 

[Vambram]

And David, king of Israel and type of Christ?

Amen.
King David did a lot of immoral acts. Nevertheless, the Bible records what our Lord God said about David and did through David.

 

[Vambram]

They are judges and prosecutors, not politicians. They work within the confines of law. You seem to be merely upset that someone who you align with politically is being prosecuted and cry wolf, but seem less interested/worried if he has actually done something illegal.

District attorneys are politicians. Judges who get voted in to be judges are politicians.

 

[Valletta]

"When Donald Trump attacks the integrity of judges hearing cases against him, his followers often respond with posts urging that the jurists be beaten, tortured and killed.'

"Well, it’s time that Congress takes a closer look at what “mostly peaceful” looks like. Here’s one of our witnesses, a former collegiate swimmer who found herself on the wrong end of a mob when she appeared at San Francisco State University last month to speak her mind about the state of women’s sports. She was barricaded in a room for several hours before finally being able to leave.
Our colleges and universities – once the symbol of free and open debate – are increasingly scenes of violent intimidation by left-wing extremists to silence those with whom they disagree."

Subcommittee Chair Bishop: “It’s Past Time We Recognize Left-Wing Violence for What it is” – Committee on Homeland Security

homeland.house.gov

Realize this was before the anti-Jewish mobs took over college campuses.

 

[wing2000]

"Well, it’s time that Congress takes a closer look at what “mostly peaceful” looks like. Here’s one of our witnesses, a former collegiate swimmer who found herself on the wrong end of a mob when she appeared at San Francisco State University last month to speak her mind about the state of women’s sports. She was barricaded in a room for several hours before finally being able to leave.
Our colleges and universities – once the symbol of free and open debate – are increasingly scenes of violent intimidation by left-wing extremists to silence those with whom they disagree."

Subcommittee Chair Bishop: “It’s Past Time We Recognize Left-Wing Violence for What it is” – Committee on Homeland Security

homeland.house.gov

Realize this was before the anti-Jewish mobs took over college campuses.

Saying the "other side"is doing it is not an argument.

The Reuters article I reference mentions acts of intimidation from the left as well. However, the article notes that pro-Trump forums include violent, inflamatory language, with specific threats to judges, elections officials etc.

In pro-Trump forums, when someone “pushes the norm of what is considered acceptable speech” by posting a call to execute judges or other public officials, “and no one questions it, then the norm of what is acceptable may shift,” said Cathy Buerger, who studies inflammatory rhetoric at the nonpartisan Dangerous Speech Project in Washington. Buerger reviewed the violent posts identified by Reuters.

 

[wing2000]

...and guess who instigates this violent rhetoric? If the former POTUS says someone is EVIL and CORRUPT....and his Congressional enablers ("leaders") stay silent, what do you expect to happen?

 

[7thKeeper]

Amen.
King David did a lot of immoral acts. Nevertheless, the Bible records what our Lord God said about David and did through David.

Funny how in your logic, that seems to apply only to people who politically align with your party of choice but not the other.
R: King David!
D: Immoral devil for whom no Christian should vote!

Could you at least attempt a bit to look like your "morality" and outrage isn't completely dictated by which party the other person aligns with from just the two that exist in your country?

 

[Hazelelponi]

...and guess who instigates this violent rhetoric? If the former POTUS says someone is EVIL and CORRUPT....and his Congressional enablers ("leaders") stay silent, what do you expect to happen?

View attachment 347881

That's a good post by Trump.

But there's no violence, no call for violence... He said New York was filled with violent crime and was taking a public poll for "Who's the worst judge"..

If people weren't unjustly prosecuting him he wouldn't make posts like that... And people wouldn't vote in the polls I'm sure..

Tell tptb not to act like a banana republic if it bothers you to be criticized for it.

 

[Vambram]

Funny how in your logic, that seems to apply only to people who politically align with your party of choice but not the other.
R: King David!
D: Immoral devil for whom no Christian should vote!

Could you at least attempt a bit to look like your "morality" and outrage isn't completely dictated by which party the other person aligns with from just the two that exist in your country?

I view many of the policies and political agenda of the Democratic Party to be morally corrupt and very immoral.
I view the policies of Republican leaders who enable or agree with the immoral policies of the Democratic Party to also be morally corrupt.
Your analysis of myself is totally and completely incorrect.

 

[Valletta]

Saying the "other side"is doing it is not an argument.

The Reuters article I reference mentions acts of intimidation from the left as well. However, the article notes that pro-Trump forums include violent, inflamatory language, with specific threats to judges, elections officials etc.

In pro-Trump forums, when someone “pushes the norm of what is considered acceptable speech” by posting a call to execute judges or other public officials, “and no one questions it, then the norm of what is acceptable may shift,” said Cathy Buerger, who studies inflammatory rhetoric at the nonpartisan Dangerous Speech Project in Washington. Buerger reviewed the violent posts identified by Reuters.

Actually the vast majority of the violence that is fueled in our country does not come from the right, it is fueled by the left. The hatred of race, through DEI and CRT and the anti-police movement and the college campuses and the human trafficking of women and children through the border disaster have devastated our country. Recall when Schumer threatened Supreme Court justices:

“I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”

And Joe Biden refused to enforce the laws regarding their protecting. The overall lack of outrage from the left was chilling, those two remain leaders of the Democrats. The rioting and burning of major cities, the thugs who smash elderly women in the face, those who threaten Jewish students and push people in front of subways, how many of them do you really see wearing MAGA shirts and hats? There may be some left-wing-moles posting, but with such huge numbers on both sides everyone should expect there will be some crazies or those who at least push back verbally from both sides. What we should be doing is restoring equal protection under the law and locking up those who commit acts of violence, starting with the most violent.