What do you british think of Ian Paisley? How seriously should i take him?
Any evidence to backup this extremely serious allegation to make against another christian?Tangnefedd said:The recent troubles in Ireland were started by his mob inciting the protestants to victimise the Catholics.
His politics mostly. I goto his website for his take on the European Unions ties to the Vatican. His website which i cant link to, its called the 'European Institute of Protestant Studies' you can probably find it on google, is anti catholic to the extreme. I read 6 articles about the European Union concerning its function and what not and It doesnt sound like the EU would be a good thing for England to join.theFijian said:Depends if you're talking about his politics or his theology/christianity.
If politics, then he should be taken very seriously as he is the leader of the largest Unionist party in Northern Ireland. If theology then it is up to yourself, his Free Presbtyerian denomination in Northern Ireland are relatively small and hold to more traditional and extreme views of biblical doctrines (ie. the Catholic church).
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Addaperle said:He is a very scary man, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He is a danger to any peace in Northern Ireland, imho...
Dear Doc,d0c markus said:His politics mostly. I goto his website for his take on the European Unions ties to the Vatican. His website which i cant link to, its called the 'European Institute of Protestant Studies' you can probably find it on google, is anti catholic to the extreme. I read 6 articles about the European Union concerning its function and what not and It doesnt sound like the EU would be a good thing for England to join.
As for his ill-tolerance for catholic's in a way while i could never rise up to that much despisment i have to admire his dedication to avoiding something he finds evil, most people tolerate it.
Suzannah said:Dear Doc,
Speaking as an Irish person, and as a former Protestant, I feel it is only fair to tell you that when it comes to Paisley, and men like him, in Northern Ireland, it is nearly impossible to seperate the theology from the politics. In order to understand what Paisley is, you have to understand the history of Northern Ireland. Paisley is a nutcase, albeit a very functioning one, who happens to be a Protestant with extreme views. Not all Protestants in Northern Ireland even agree with his theology much less his politics. Additionally, as time has gone on, more and more people have taken him less seriously than in the past, because violence breaks out everywhere he goes. "By their fruits ye shall know them..." With all due respect to you, suggesting that admiration is due him for his "dedication" is rather like admiring Eichmann for his "tenacity".
Additionally, he is not simply "avoiding something he finds evil". He is actively and loudly promoting violence toward Catholics and all others who do not share his extreme theological and political views. Are you aware that Protestants who do not toe his "party line" (such as myself) are in as much danger from his followers as Catholics? Are you aware that Protestants who befriend Catholics sometimes wake up in the middle of the night with their houses on fire or their children beaten to pulps on the way home from school?
Guys, dont take my comments the wrong way, admiring ones dedication to something is different than supporting it. The dedication itself is not bad, even though his promotions are.Suzannah said:Dear Doc,
Speaking as an Irish person, and as a former Protestant, I feel it is only fair to tell you that when it comes to Paisley, and men like him, in Northern Ireland, it is nearly impossible to seperate the theology from the politics. In order to understand what Paisley is, you have to understand the history of Northern Ireland. Paisley is a nutcase, albeit a very functioning one, who happens to be a Protestant with extreme views. Not all Protestants in Northern Ireland even agree with his theology much less his politics. Additionally, as time has gone on, more and more people have taken him less seriously than in the past, because violence breaks out everywhere he goes. "By their fruits ye shall know them..." With all due respect to you, suggesting that admiration is due him for his "dedication" is rather like admiring Eichmann for his "tenacity".
Additionally, he is not simply "avoiding something he finds evil". He is actively and loudly promoting violence toward Catholics and all others who do not share his extreme theological and political views. Are you aware that Protestants who do not toe his "party line" (such as myself) are in as much danger from his followers as Catholics? Are you aware that Protestants who befriend Catholics sometimes wake up in the middle of the night with their houses on fire or their children beaten to pulps on the way home from school?
Never said that. I said:admiration is due him
You missed the point Doc. He is not avoiding anything. He is in fact, going out of his way to come into violent contact with Catholicism. You seem not to want to face that fact.d0c markus said:Guys, dont take my comments the wrong way, admiring ones dedication to something is different than supporting it. The dedication itself is not bad, even though his promotions are.
Never said that. I said:
i have to admire his dedication to avoiding something he finds evil, most people tolerate it.