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<blockquote data-quote="FredVB" data-source="post: 69962486" data-attributes="member: 259043"><p>I am glad to see this post from a new CF member, and we need those who are vegan coming to this. Those points that were raised are right. There were Christians that were in fact the original vegans in our western culture, with those valid reasons, though the term "vegetarian" came for it earlier. And vegetarian came to mean other options, when the term "vegan" was started for that original meaning. And I had been vegetarian before in that sense of having more options, which has use of animal products still, and when I realized the good reasons to stop using any of those for consuming, I still thought of veganism as being vegetarian and would still use that term. But now I see the need for having veganism being shown completely distinct. It is, though it was known as vegetarian when that was all vegetarian meant originally. But vegetarian in the more modern sense does not deal with the issues which there really are. There is either ignorance of those issues, or if there is awareness vegetarians can learn it is with being vegan that one really deals with those. If there isn't still not ignorance, with not being vegan there is resistance showing there isn't really care for the issues. And the caring would be Christian.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FredVB, post: 69962486, member: 259043"] I am glad to see this post from a new CF member, and we need those who are vegan coming to this. Those points that were raised are right. There were Christians that were in fact the original vegans in our western culture, with those valid reasons, though the term "vegetarian" came for it earlier. And vegetarian came to mean other options, when the term "vegan" was started for that original meaning. And I had been vegetarian before in that sense of having more options, which has use of animal products still, and when I realized the good reasons to stop using any of those for consuming, I still thought of veganism as being vegetarian and would still use that term. But now I see the need for having veganism being shown completely distinct. It is, though it was known as vegetarian when that was all vegetarian meant originally. But vegetarian in the more modern sense does not deal with the issues which there really are. There is either ignorance of those issues, or if there is awareness vegetarians can learn it is with being vegan that one really deals with those. If there isn't still not ignorance, with not being vegan there is resistance showing there isn't really care for the issues. And the caring would be Christian. [/QUOTE]
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