Theologians have always condemned Palamism

[JM]

Palamism is a 14th century teaching that forms the basis of modern Eastern Orthodoxy.

Yours in the Lord,

jm

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

in this he reaffirms "absolute divine simplicity" as being Lutheran

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

however there are problems with ADS:

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

This is why there is a post-metaphysical turn in philosophy to existentialism and Social Trinitarianism; the "glory" in Ezekiel 1 and the transfiguration for example, were really experienced by Ezekiel and the apostles involved, so they experienced the "uncreated light" not just in the mind but in reality; Now, the doctrine of "inseparable operations" get's tangled in there and this is why Lutherans are more able to see OT christophanies of the pre-incarnate Christ while Calvin never saw Jesus in the OT; (John 12:41) has to be read back into the OT as the interpretive method. The issue becomes sola scriptura : Was John not being truthful saying Isaiah and by extension pre-incarnate Jesus was being seen by Isaiah? Calvinism/Catholicism would say no, this was just an ecstatic experience in the mind only because God cannot be seen in any way. So the essence-energies distinction is the only explanation or you deny sola scriptura and fall into rationalism trying to understand christophanies and the transfiguration.

 

[JM]

in this he reaffirms "absolute divine simplicity" as being Lutheran

Spot on.

The Orthodox practice, terms aside, is similar to Hinduism.

 

[Shane R]

OT christophanies of the pre-incarnate Christ while Calvin never saw Jesus in the OT; (John 12:41) has to be read back into the OT as the interpretive method.

I just learned a new term to describe this technique in the last week: prosopological exegesis.

 

[JM]

Had to look it up.

"Prosopological exegesis is a person-centered reading strategy that helps us see the person-centered subject matter and the person-centered end of Scripture. It teaches us that the purpose of revelation, and of revelation's inscripturation, is to unveil God's intratrinitarian life of communication and communion and to welcome us into that life's embrace--at great cost to the triune God himself (Matt 11.25-27; 1 John 1.3-4). Holy Scripture is the product of the Holy Spirit, who enabled prophets and apostles to overhear the lovely words of the Father to the Son and of the Son to the Father, and who enables us to hear the testimony of the prophets and apostles in order that, through their testimony, we too may have fellowship with the Father through the Son in the Spirit." The trinitarian depth of Scripture

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

I just learned a new term to describe this technique in the last week: prosopological exegesis.

Okay well this is a typical reply--- I'm reading the Hummel cph commentary on Ezekiel, and without quoting verbatim, that's what he says, he also puts in Chemnitz the two natures in anticipation of this "prosopon" accusation ;I can't quote the full 600 page book though it is couched with Trinitarianism in mind, however, the Reformed will use this as an excuse like I said to not see Christ in OT, and that's part of Hummel's point in the commentary-- now if you want to actually critique the way Hummel put it in the commentary, I'd love to read it lol. those articles are very useful though, I am learning more every day, and haven't encountered that before. I can't help but wonder if rejecting PE also results in seeing Christ nowhere in the OT except Isaiah 53 because all of the other prophecies can be explained away grammatically/syntactically in Judaism, which is why William Lane Craig relies so heavily on just Isaiah 53.
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"Prosopological Exegesis capitalizes on ambiguity in certain biblical texts and seeks to put a “face” (Greek; prosopon—thus the terminology) or “person” to these alleged ambiguous speakers behind the writings of the inspired authors. Should Christians use this method to understand the Bible?" doesn't really apply to what I'm talking about because Ezekiel 1 doesn't have someone speaking for Christ like Psalms 2 and other passages

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

okay so thanks for clarifying that in Latin theology the perception of theophanic energies that Ezekiel experienced was only in his mind; I'll stick with Palamas that the divine glory is uncreated