The Sabbath is grace.

[AlightSeeker]

Actually maybe i should have said grace is the Sabbath.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

Our Compassionate High Priest​

14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

 

[AlightSeeker]

Im meditating on this. I think i have it now. We don't rest from work one day a weak but always. Thats the sabbath we see in Verse 10 which says that we are God's handiwork. He makes us walk in his works that he already prepared and now he rests from his. No longer do we do our works but God's works so we rest from ours, like resting on Saturday sabbath but this is eternal rest. Sabbath is a shadow according to colossians 2, perhaps thats like a symbol of the eternal Sabbbath that they couldn't have because Jesus hadn't come yet. Like Hebrews 4 teaches us.

Ephesians 2:7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

 

[Bob S]

Im meditating on this. I think i have it now. We don't rest from work one day a weak but always. Thats the sabbath we see in Verse 10 which says that we are God's handiwork. He makes us walk in his works that he already prepared and now he rests from his. No longer do we do our works but God's works so we rest from ours, like resting on Saturday sabbath but this is eternal rest. Sabbath is a shadow according to colossians 2, perhaps thats like a symbol of the eternal Sabbbath that they couldn't have because Jesus hadn't come yet. Like Hebrews 4 teaches us.

Ephesians 2:7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

That is great insight. Paul further tells us that Jesus came to give the Gentiles the way to eternal life by breaking the barrier that stood between Jews and Gentiles. That barrier was the Law. Temple worship was the main obstacle. Even a Jew who was not circumcised could not worship God in the Temple. How did Jesus do that? He stopped the fighting between them by His death on the cross. He put an end to the Law. So, we know that the physical Sabbath barrier ended at Calvary and now Jesus is everyone's rest TODAY.


11 Do not forget that at one time you did not know God. The Jews, who had gone through the religious act of becoming a Jew by man’s hands, said you were people who do not know God. 12 You were living without Christ then. The Jewish people who belonged to God had nothing to do with you. The promises He gave to them were not for you. You had nothing in this world to hope for. You were without God.

13 But now you belong to Christ Jesus. At one time you were far away from God. Now you have been brought close to Him. Christ did this for you when He gave His blood on the cross. 14 We have peace because of Christ. He has made the Jews and those who are not Jews one people. He broke down the wall that divided them. 15 He stopped the fighting between them by His death on the cross. He put an end to the Law.

The barrier was Torah, every bit of the Law given at Sinai Jesus ended at the Cross.

 

[AlightSeeker]

That is great insight. Paul further tells us that Jesus came to give the Gentiles the way to eternal life by breaking the barrier that stood between Jews and Gentiles. That barrier was the Law. Temple worship was the main obstacle. Even a Jew who was not circumcised could not worship God in the Temple. How did Jesus do that? He stopped the fighting between them by His death on the cross. He put an end to the Law. So, we know that the physical Sabbath barrier ended at Calvary and now Jesus is everyone's rest TODAY.


11 Do not forget that at one time you did not know God. The Jews, who had gone through the religious act of becoming a Jew by man’s hands, said you were people who do not know God. 12 You were living without Christ then. The Jewish people who belonged to God had nothing to do with you. The promises He gave to them were not for you. You had nothing in this world to hope for. You were without God.

13 But now you belong to Christ Jesus. At one time you were far away from God. Now you have been brought close to Him. Christ did this for you when He gave His blood on the cross. 14 We have peace because of Christ. He has made the Jews and those who are not Jews one people. He broke down the wall that divided them. 15 He stopped the fighting between them by His death on the cross. He put an end to the Law.

The barrier was Torah, every bit of the Law given at Sinai Jesus ended at the Cross.

The old had to go to make way for the new temple which is the human heart and the assembly of saints who have their hearts trained on the Lord which Christ is the head and chief priest of

 

[BobRyan]

. Sabbath is a shadow according to colossians 2

The seventh day Sabbath is not a shadow - it is a memorial and existed in Gen 2 prior to the fall of man as confirmed in legal code in Ex 20:11.
Lev 23 has a number of annual Sabbaths that were created in the form of animal-sacrifice based observances at the time of Sinai - and they alone were "shadow" Sabbaths that pointed foreward in sacrifice to Christ. There is no Sacrifice at all in Ex 20:8-11 for the weekly Sabbath.

No wonder that in Isaiah 66:23 we have all mankind coming before God for worship "FROM Sabbath TO Sabbath" in the New Earth for all eternity after the cross.

 

[BobRyan]

That is great insight. Paul further tells us that Jesus came to give the Gentiles the way to eternal life by breaking the barrier that stood between Jews and Gentiles.

That had nothing to do with the weekly memorial of creation since all humans were created in that week - not "just Jews" and Adam was not "A Jew". No wonder gentiles who honored God's Sabbath were singled out for Sabbath blessings in Isaiah 56:6-8

 

[BobRyan]

The old had to go to make way for the new temple which is the human heart and the assembly of saints who have their hearts trained on the Lord which Christ is the head and chief priest of

The New Covenant is Old Testament as we see in Jer 31:31-34 and the Gospel "was preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8

 

[Gary K]

Im meditating on this. I think i have it now. We don't rest from work one day a weak but always. Thats the sabbath we see in Verse 10 which says that we are God's handiwork. He makes us walk in his works that he already prepared and now he rests from his. No longer do we do our works but God's works so we rest from ours, like resting on Saturday sabbath but this is eternal rest. Sabbath is a shadow according to colossians 2, perhaps thats like a symbol of the eternal Sabbbath that they couldn't have because Jesus hadn't come yet. Like Hebrews 4 teaches us.

Ephesians 2:7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Let's look at the Greek word for grace used in the scripture you quoted.

[*StrongsGreek*]
05485
χάρις cháris, khar'-ece
from 5463;
graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstract or concrete; literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude):--acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace(- ious), joy, liberality, pleasure, thank(-s, -worthy).

So what is God's grace? The gift of the HS. I now have a question for you. Does God argue with Himself? Is He going to say one thing and then another that contradicts Himself on the Sabbath?

 

[eleos1954]

That is great insight. Paul further tells us that Jesus came to give the Gentiles the way to eternal life by breaking the barrier that stood between Jews and Gentiles. That barrier was the Law. Temple worship was the main obstacle. Even a Jew who was not circumcised could not worship God in the Temple. How did Jesus do that? He stopped the fighting between them by His death on the cross. He put an end to the Law. So, we know that the physical Sabbath barrier ended at Calvary and now Jesus is everyone's rest TODAY.


11 Do not forget that at one time you did not know God. The Jews, who had gone through the religious act of becoming a Jew by man’s hands, said you were people who do not know God. 12 You were living without Christ then. The Jewish people who belonged to God had nothing to do with you. The promises He gave to them were not for you. You had nothing in this world to hope for. You were without God.

13 But now you belong to Christ Jesus. At one time you were far away from God. Now you have been brought close to Him. Christ did this for you when He gave His blood on the cross. 14 We have peace because of Christ. He has made the Jews and those who are not Jews one people. He broke down the wall that divided them. 15 He stopped the fighting between them by His death on the cross. He put an end to the Law.

The barrier was Torah, every bit of the Law given at Sinai Jesus ended at the Cross.

The law didn't end at the cross .... the law is fully intact. All will be judged by the law. Followers of Christ will not be condemned by it. He will cloth us in His righteousness and we will be declared not guilty (of the law)

Romans 2

1For God does not show favoritism. 12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but it is the doers of the law who will be declared righteous.…

Of course there is law ..... Jesus can't judge with out it. Jesus taught from the OT ... the law (the 10) stands .... forever.

The Jews in the OT had made themselves an "exclusive religion " based on ethnicity .... and the Lord never intended for it to be that way .... it is why He took that system down.

There is nothing wrong with God's laws (the 10) .... there is something wrong with us. Sin is transgression of the law ... always has been ... always will be.

 

[AlightSeeker]

Let's look at the Greek word for grace used in the scripture you quoted.

[*StrongsGreek*]
05485
χάρις cháris, khar'-ece
from 5463;
graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstract or concrete; literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude):--acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace(- ious), joy, liberality, pleasure, thank(-s, -worthy).

So what is God's grace? The gift of the HS. I now have a question for you. Does God argue with Himself? Is He going to say one thing and then another that contradicts Himself on the Sabbath?

He doesnt contradict himself. The Jews were the contradiction. They were contrary to God. Look at Hebrews 12:3 which shows us this. Therefore God didn't give them his true Sabbath rest but a mere shadow as Paul called it. He said they will not enter his rest.

Hebrews 12:2 looking only at Jesus, the [a]originator and perfecter of the faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary [b]and lose heart.

A Father’s Discipline​

4 You have not yet resisted [c]to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; 5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are punished by Him;
6 For whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He punishes every son whom He accepts.”

 

[AlightSeeker]

Praise the Lord for opening my eyes to his wonders.

 

[guevaraj]

Sabbath is a shadow according to Colossians 2

Brother, the reason the Sabbath in Judaism is a shadow of the true Sabbath of the Bible is explained in the new covenant book of Hebrews. Judaism has never fully understood the Sabbath since Joshua, because Joshua wrongly assumed that the earlier Sabbath after Manna in Jerusalem was the seventh day of the week when it is half a day earlier than the seventh day of the week in Jerusalem. The reason this has been hidden from readers of the King James Version (KJV) is because they misidentified "Joshua" before David as "Jesus", forcing the message to seem to refer to the present after Jesus when the original message was about a past mistake in the understanding of the Sabbath by Joshua when they transitioned to a different Sabbath without Manna in the Promised Land. For forty years, when they kept the seventh day with Manna, God tells us in Hebrews that He had punished them not to enter His "day" of rest available since the first week of creation, which they later entered in the Promised Land at an earlier time than the seventh day of the week. Joshua did not pay any attention to the change from a day of the week from morning to morning to the evening to evening Sabbath and assumed wrongly that this earlier Sabbath, from evening to evening, was also the seventh day of the week in the Promised Land, overlooking the fact that the days of the week were in the desert from morning to morning for 40 years.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. (Hebrews 4:8 KJV)​

The above blunder of misidentifying Joshua as Jesus is later corrected without correcting its forced twisting effect on the rest of the passage.

For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. (Hebrews 4:8 NKJV)​

This blunder of misidentifying Joshua as Jesus hid the true message of the book of Hebrews for generations of readers of the English translation of the scriptures when Jesus wanted us to keep His first week's Sabbath "day" corrected from human tradition since Joshua, where Joshua wrongly thought the Sabbath in Jerusalem was the seventh day of the week when the Sabbath is fixed in the time zone of Eden and falls at a different time in Jerusalem, half a day before the seventh day of the week. The KJV twisted the message of the passage to fit their misidentification that many other translations followed even after the misidentification was corrected, but not corrected was its effect on the rest of the message in the book of Hebrews. Many translations continue the error started by the KJV's misidentification of Joshua as Jesus in Hebrews, chapter 4, when Jesus was not before David to make the "good news" of entering the Sabbath be mistranslated as the "gospel" of Jesus. The wrong translation of "gospel" for the phrase the "good news" of entering the Sabbath has influenced wrongly many other Bible translations after the KJV. The newer NKJV fixes the misidentification of Joshua as Jesus but not its effect on the rest of the passage, like the "gospel" of Jesus (not possible before David), for the phrase, the "good news" of entering the Sabbath, first heard by those that died in the desert.

For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. (Hebrews 4:2 NKJV)​

The blunder of misidentifying Joshua as Jesus changed the below "good news" of entering the Sabbath to the above "gospel" of Jesus, forcing the message to seem to be about the present when it is about a past misunderstanding of the Sabbath. The New Living Translation (NLT) was a complete effort from the original languages which finally corrected this twisting of the scriptures by the KJV that influenced so many other translations.

For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)​

Those, like Joshua, who first heard the "good news", that God had prepared this rest" since the first week of creation, were punished not to enter the Sabbath by an "oath" near the Promised Land with Manna, that Joshua later entered before the seventh day of the week from evening to evening, having been prevented from entering the Sabbath with Manna for 40 years from morning to morning near the Promised Land. In the following Hebrews passage corrected from the blunder of the KJV, "another day" refers to a different day than the one thought for the Sabbath since Joshua: not the seventh day of the week everywhere, but the seventh day of the first week of creation remembered in the time zone of creation half a day before the seventh day in Jerusalem. We do not automatically enter the "day" of rest by accepting the "good news" of entering the Sabbath "announced to us just as it was to them" in the desert, like the KJV mistranslated. What we "can" enter is the "day" of rest in the new covenant "announced to us just as it was to them" by understanding how God prevented Joshua from entering the Sabbath for 40 years in the desert by punishing them by having them keep the seventh day of the week near the Promised Land when the Sabbath is entered earlier than the Seventh day of the week in the Promised Land.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:1-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[SabbathBlessings]

He doesnt contradict himself. The Jews were the contradiction. They were contrary to God. Look at Hebrews 12:3 which shows us this. Therefore God didn't give them his true Sabbath rest but a mere shadow as Paul called it. He said they will not enter his rest.

Hebrews 12:2 looking only at Jesus, the [a]originator and perfecter of the faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary [b]and lose heart.

A Father’s Discipline​

4 You have not yet resisted [c]to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; 5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are punished by Him;
6 For whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He punishes every son whom He accepts.”

The rest in Hebrews 4 that the Israelites would not enter was not the Sabbath commandment, that makes no sense. It is the rest in Canaan.

There are two rests in Hebrews 4, not one and the context tells us which rests it refers to....

Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”

The rest in most of Hebrews 4 means this:
katapausis: rest
Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: katapausis
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis)
Definition: rest
Usage: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation.

Most of Hebrews 4 is referring to the Israelites and why they did not enter into Christ rest (Canaan rest) and this is actually about Sabbath-keeping disobedience as many of the Israelites did not enter into Canaan due to their disobedience Hebrews 4:6 and in particular the Sabbath commandment and we are called not to follow their same path of disobedience...

Ezekiel 20: 11 And I gave them My statutes and showed them My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them.’ 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them. 13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them. 14 But I acted for My name’s sake, that it should not be profaned before the Gentiles, in whose sight I had brought them out. 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

Many of the Israelites did not enter their land (rest) due to their disobedience and specifically the Sabbath. We are called not to follow their same path of disobedience

Hebrews 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

Which is why in Hebrews 4:9 the rest in this context is the Sabbath-rest and it remains for God's people. The Greek word here means Sabbath-keeping,

Hebrews 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;

sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: a sabbath rest
Usage: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment.

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

Which is why God's faithful followers and the disciples kept every Sabbath as a day of worship Act 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 16:8 Acts 18:4

The doctrine that instead of us obeying the commandment of God the way God wrote and God spoke that we can disregard and instead Jesus does something for us as if He turned into a commandment or the creation i.e. rest / day and we no longer need to keep the Sabbath according to the commandment, is a deceptive doctrine of another spirit.

The Sabbath is a commandment of God and it is exactly how He wrote and spoke it, and no one can alter the Words that come out of His mouth Psalm 89:34 or one of His holy commandments. Deut 4:2 because we are not above God or His holy and eternal law. Rev 11:19

 

[SabbathBlessings]

He doesnt contradict himself. The Jews were the contradiction. They were contrary to God. Look at Hebrews 12:3 which shows us this. Therefore God didn't give them his true Sabbath rest but a mere shadow as Paul called it. He said they will not enter his rest.

Hebrews 12:2 looking only at Jesus, the [a]originator and perfecter of the faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary [b]and lose heart.

A Father’s Discipline​

4 You have not yet resisted [c]to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; 5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are punished by Him;
6 For whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He punishes every son whom He accepts.”

There is more than one Sabbath in the scriptures. The weekly Sabbath that is a commandment of God, written and spoken by God Exo 2:8-11 Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 and the yearly sabbath(s) ordinances, which is from the law of Moses handwritten by Moses, not finger-written by God. Paul makes it clear the sabbath(s) He is referring to if you carefully study and look at all of the context.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

This clearly teaches it is referring to the sabbath(s) in the handwriting of ordinances, not the finger-written commandment of God, that is holy and blessed by God, which is not the definition of contrary or against.

Once God blesses something man cannot reverse Numbers 23:20 so one would need a thus saith the Lord on that verse to change or alter the Sabbath commandment and if you do a study of all the scriptures all of the thus saith the Lords on the Sabbath is about God telling us to keep the Sabbath, to not profane the Sabbath.

The apostles kept every Sabbath decades after the cross Acts 18:4 Acts 13:42-44 so obviously not referring to the Sabbath commandment, that the apostles taught what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19. The Sabbath is a commandment of God. Sadly this one out of context verse has deceived so many. Just as we were warned Dan 7:25 we are old to keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus Rev 14:12

 

[AlightSeeker]

Brother, the reason the Sabbath in Judaism is a shadow of the true Sabbath of the Bible is explained in the new covenant book of Hebrews. Judaism has never fully understood the Sabbath since Joshua, because Joshua wrongly assumed that the earlier Sabbath after Manna in Jerusalem was the seventh day of the week when it is half a day earlier than the seventh day of the week in Jerusalem. The reason this has been hidden from readers of the King James Version (KJV) is because they misidentified "Joshua" before David as "Jesus", forcing the message to seem to refer to the present after Jesus when the original message was about a past mistake in the understanding of the Sabbath by Joshua when they transitioned to a different Sabbath without Manna in the Promised Land. For forty years, when they kept the seventh day with Manna, God tells us in Hebrews that He had punished them not to enter His "day" of rest available since the first week of creation, which they later entered in the Promised Land at an earlier time than the seventh day of the week. Joshua did not pay any attention to the change from a day of the week from morning to morning to the evening to evening Sabbath and assumed wrongly that this earlier Sabbath, from evening to evening, was also the seventh day of the week in the Promised Land, overlooking the fact that the days of the week were in the desert from morning to morning for 40 years.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. (Hebrews 4:8 KJV)​

The above blunder of misidentifying Joshua as Jesus is later corrected without correcting its forced twisting effect on the rest of the passage.

For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. (Hebrews 4:8 NKJV)​

This blunder of misidentifying Joshua as Jesus hid the true message of the book of Hebrews for generations of readers of the English translation of the scriptures when Jesus wanted us to keep His first week's Sabbath "day" corrected from human tradition since Joshua, where Joshua wrongly thought the Sabbath in Jerusalem was the seventh day of the week when the Sabbath is fixed in the time zone of Eden and falls at a different time in Jerusalem, half a day before the seventh day of the week. The KJV twisted the message of the passage to fit their misidentification that many other translations followed even after the misidentification was corrected, but not corrected was its effect on the rest of the message in the book of Hebrews. Many translations continue the error started by the KJV's misidentification of Joshua as Jesus in Hebrews, chapter 4, when Jesus was not before David to make the "good news" of entering the Sabbath be mistranslated as the "gospel" of Jesus. The wrong translation of "gospel" for the phrase the "good news" of entering the Sabbath has influenced wrongly many other Bible translations after the KJV. The newer NKJV fixes the misidentification of Joshua as Jesus but not its effect on the rest of the passage, like the "gospel" of Jesus (not possible before David), for the phrase, the "good news" of entering the Sabbath, first heard by those that died in the desert.

For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. (Hebrews 4:2 NKJV)​

The blunder of misidentifying Joshua as Jesus changed the below "good news" of entering the Sabbath to the above "gospel" of Jesus, forcing the message to seem to be about the present when it is about a past misunderstanding of the Sabbath. The New Living Translation (NLT) was a complete effort from the original languages which finally corrected this twisting of the scriptures by the KJV that influenced so many other translations.

For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)​

Those, like Joshua, who first heard the "good news", that God had prepared this rest" since the first week of creation, were punished not to enter the Sabbath by an "oath" near the Promised Land with Manna, that Joshua later entered before the seventh day of the week from evening to evening, having been prevented from entering the Sabbath with Manna for 40 years from morning to morning near the Promised Land. In the following Hebrews passage corrected from the blunder of the KJV, "another day" refers to a different day than the one thought for the Sabbath since Joshua: not the seventh day of the week everywhere, but the seventh day of the first week of creation remembered in the time zone of creation half a day before the seventh day in Jerusalem. We do not automatically enter the "day" of rest by accepting the "good news" of entering the Sabbath "announced to us just as it was to them" in the desert, like the KJV mistranslated. What we "can" enter is the "day" of rest in the new covenant "announced to us just as it was to them" by understanding how God prevented Joshua from entering the Sabbath for 40 years in the desert by punishing them by having them keep the seventh day of the week near the Promised Land when the Sabbath is entered earlier than the Seventh day of the week in the Promised Land.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:1-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Gods true worshippers worship God in spirit and truth. They will have his spirit and worship through the spirit.

 

[AlightSeeker]

Scripture says that some people fall short of that rest. This is not referring to Saturday rest.

 

[AlightSeeker]

The rest in Hebrews 4 that the Israelites would not enter was not the Sabbath commandment, that makes no sense. It is the rest in Canaan.

There are two rests in Hebrews 4, not one and the context tells us which rests it refers to....

Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”

The rest in most of Hebrews 4 means this:
katapausis: rest
Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: katapausis
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis)
Definition: rest
Usage: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation.

Most of Hebrews 4 is referring to the Israelites and why they did not enter into Christ rest (Canaan rest) and this is actually about Sabbath-keeping disobedience as many of the Israelites did not enter into Canaan due to their disobedience Hebrews 4:6 and in particular the Sabbath commandment and we are called not to follow their same path of disobedience...

Ezekiel 20: 11 And I gave them My statutes and showed them My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them.’ 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them. 13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them. 14 But I acted for My name’s sake, that it should not be profaned before the Gentiles, in whose sight I had brought them out. 15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

Many of the Israelites did not enter their land (rest) due to their disobedience and specifically the Sabbath. We are called not to follow their same path of disobedience

Hebrews 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

Which is why in Hebrews 4:9 the rest in this context is the Sabbath-rest and it remains for God's people. The Greek word here means Sabbath-keeping,

Hebrews 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;

sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: a sabbath rest
Usage: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment.

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

Which is why God's faithful followers and the disciples kept every Sabbath as a day of worship Act 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 16:8 Acts 18:4

The doctrine that instead of us obeying the commandment of God the way God wrote and God spoke that we can disregard and instead Jesus does something for us as if He turned into a commandment or the creation i.e. rest / day and we no longer need to keep the Sabbath according to the commandment, is a deceptive doctrine of another spirit.

The Sabbath is a commandment of God and it is exactly how He wrote and spoke it, and no one can alter the Words that come out of His mouth Psalm 89:34 or one of His holy commandments. Deut 4:2 because we are not above God or His holy and eternal law. Rev 11:19

I know there are two rests mentioned. That's what I've been saying.

 

[AlightSeeker]

There is more than one Sabbath in the scriptures. The weekly Sabbath that is a commandment of God, written and spoken by God Exo 2:8-11 Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 and the yearly sabbath(s) ordinances, which is from the law of Moses handwritten by Moses, not finger-written by God. Paul makes it clear the sabbath(s) He is referring to if you carefully study and look at all of the context.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

This clearly teaches it is referring to the sabbath(s) in the handwriting of ordinances, not the finger-written commandment of God, that is holy and blessed by God, which is not the definition of contrary or against.

Once God blesses something man cannot reverse Numbers 23:20 so one would need a thus saith the Lord on that verse to change or alter the Sabbath commandment and if you do a study of all the scriptures all of the thus saith the Lords on the Sabbath is about God telling us to keep the Sabbath, to not profane the Sabbath.

The apostles kept every Sabbath decades after the cross Acts 18:4 Acts 13:42-44 so obviously not referring to the Sabbath commandment, that the apostles taught what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19. The Sabbath is a commandment of God. Sadly this one out of context verse has deceived so many. Just as we were warned Dan 7:25 we are old to keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus Rev 14:12

I'll yield to Paul's command and wisdom in Romans 14.

 

[AlightSeeker]

Paul's commandment is rest.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I know there are two rests mentioned. That's what I've been saying.

You said this:

IIm meditating on this. I think i have it now. We don't rest from work one day a weak but always. Thats the sabbath we see in Verse 10 which says that we are God's handiwork. He makes us walk in his works that he already prepared and now he rests from his. No longer do we do our works but God's works so we rest from ours, like resting on Saturday sabbath but this is eternal rest. Sabbath is a shadow according to colossians 2, perhaps thats like a symbol of the eternal Sabbbath that they couldn't have because Jesus hadn't come yet. Like Hebrews 4 teaches us.

The Sabbath rest is according to the commanment.

This is the Sabbath commandment, God wrote and spoke these words- you can't get any higher Authority!

Exodus 20"8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Not everyday is the Sabbath, the Sabbath is the seventh day. All other days are working days, not the holy day of the Lord, the seventh day Sabbath. Exo 20:10 Isa 58:13

On the Sabbath there is no secular work, if every day was the Sabbath than nothing would get done. That doesn't mean we don't worship God daily, but we do not spend 24/7 in holy time with God. God gives us 6 days to do all thy work and labors and only asks for one full day back dedicated completely on Him, the seventh day Exo 20:8-11.