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The Randle cycle is a new thing for me, but it seems important for our dietary decisions. So I am sharing it here, with other health enthusiasts.
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Though exercising a lot (like on the elite level) can mitigate some negative impacts of sugar in our blood stream and in our cells, I am not sure if your statement that, if you exercise at lot, then its not bad and the negative effects are nullified, is completely true.According to the study, sugar, including carbs is only bad if taken in excess and energy demand (through physical activity or exercise) isn't high enough.
Otherwise, if you exercise A LOT, it would nullify the negative effects of high carb diet. Carbs would even be of benefit to quickly replenish the glycogen used during exercise but only if your exercise load is high enough.
Though exercising a lot (like on the elite level) can mitigate some negative impacts of sugar in our blood stream and in our cells, I am not sure if your statement that, if you exercise at lot, then its not bad and the negative effects are nullified, is completely true.
It seems that carbohydrates act like a toxicity in our body. Using it quickly for energy may lower its negative impact, but the question is to what level, in what situation, after which meals, and in which individual person. I guess it will be pretty much all over the place because the possible life combinations, like age, gender, individual health, type and timing of exercise, the season of the year, genetics/ancestry, various possible carbohydrate forms and meal combinations, are almost unlimited.
Therefore, the safest way for the general, more sedentary population (like me), seems to be to simply not eat carbohydrates or in a very limited amount.
Therefore, the safest way for the general, more sedentary population (like me), seems to be to simply not eat carbohydrates or in a very limited amount.
What is the amount of dietary carbs that is not harmful in any way? The amount that causes basically no insulin response?Sugar is only harmful if constitutes a large part of total calories. In small amounts, it can be part of a healthy diet.
Let's not ignore the effect of sugar on the liver and on the teeth. Sugar is always harmful in nearly exactly the same way as alcohol. It's just that in small amounts and with enough exercise, its effects can be ameliorated...like alcohol.Sugar is only harmful if constitutes a large part of total calories. In small amounts, it can be part of a healthy diet. High carb diets are also consumed by alot of relatively healthy groups, including hunter-gatherers.
That's called an addiction, which is a common effect of sugar, like alcohol. That's harm.The Hadza of Tanzania are one of the few remaining hunter-gatherer groups. 15 percent of their calories come from sugar, in the form of honey. They like honey so much, they will let bees sting them to get into a beehive full of honey.
Well, a small, relatively short insulin response is not indicative of harm. That's supposed to happen. Protein will also cause an insulin response, as will a large enough quantity of fat.What is the amount of dietary carbs that is not harmful in any way? The amount that causes basically no insulin response?
With the same effect on body as with sugar?Protein will also cause an insulin response, as will a large enough quantity of fat.
I mentioned other effects of sugar in the other post.With the same effect on body as with sugar?
I meant whether the impact of insulin on body chemistry is the same when caused by proteins as when caused by blood sugar.I mentioned other effects of sugar in the other post.
I meant whether the impact of insulin on body chemistry is the same when caused by proteins as when caused by blood sugar.
I haven't seen anything to suggest that insulin is not always insulin. The difference lies in the level and duration. A tiny bit of sugar won't spike as high or as long as a large amount of protein, but in equal amounts (by weight), sugar will spike higher and longer.I meant whether the impact of insulin on body chemistry is the same when caused by proteins as when caused by blood sugar.
Let's not ignore the effect of sugar on the liver and on the teeth. Sugar is always harmful in nearly exactly the same way as alcohol. It's just that in small amounts and with enough exercise, its effects can be ameliorated...like alcohol.
That's called an addiction, which is a common effect of sugar, like alcohol. That's harm.
In nature, fruit is quite rare. I used to teach jungle survival, and fruit just isn't found very easily. Natural fruits are also quite lower in sugar than the hybrids you find today in a supermarket, and if they are sweet, they've very small (such as berries, which are still less sweet than the store-bought hybrids). Bottom line: Early man didn't get much sugar from the fruit found in nature.Alcohol is relatively harmless in the small quantities early primates routinely consumed as part of a diet high in fruit. It's only in higher amounts, such as in alcoholic drinks, that most human beings have trouble detoxifying alcohol.
Fruits also contain quite a bit of sugars. In fact this is why human beings and other primates have color vision, so that we can distinguish ripe from unripe fruit. Most predatory carnivores, on the other hand, only see in black and white, their vision is optimized for hunting in low-light conditions.
Sugar is physically addictive. There is no real controversy about that.It's debatable how applicable the concept of addiction is to food. The Hadza are consuming whole honeycombs with some amounts of insects larvae. Contrary to the usual perceptions, many African tribes also have decent oral hygene, brushing their teeth with branches pulled off trees.
In nature, fruit is quite rare. I used to teach jungle survival, and fruit just isn't found very easily. Natural fruits are also quite lower in sugar than the hybrids you find today in a supermarket, and if they are sweet, they've very small (such as berries, which are still less sweet than the store-bought hybrids). Bottom line: Early man didn't get much sugar from the fruit found in nature.
Sugar is physically addictive. There is no real controversy about that.
And there is far less need for oral care when sugar and starchy carbohydrates are removed from the diet. Dental caries were practically unknown to the Inuit of North America, whose native diets had been nearly wholly carnivore, until they began eating bread provided by the white population.
And even then, those were fruits cultured over years, not real natural mangos. We've been culturing fruit for three or four thousand years. It was in the Philippines that I did jungle survival training.I rarely get the chance to eat fruits anymore.
I used to have the opportunity to eat natural fruits from decades ago. My grandparents grew mangoes and other fruits at their large backyard in their semi-rural residence. I remember them being sweet when ripe and getting even sweeter as they became over-ripe.