The Lutheran Missal Project

[JM]

"The Lutheran Missal project aims to make available to the English-speaking church of today the lectionary, prayers, and other accompanying rites and resources that were available to and used by the Lutheran Church in the first century following the Reformation." About

Yours in the Lord,

jm

 

[Shane R]

I've been distantly following this project. I also have in my posession some trial liturgies and texts that are being used in congregations in advance of ELDoNA publishing a Missal next year.

 

[The Liturgist]

This is delightful news!

 

[The Liturgist]

"The Lutheran Missal project aims to make available to the English-speaking church of today the lectionary, prayers, and other accompanying rites and resources that were available to and used by the Lutheran Church in the first century following the Reformation." About

Yours in the Lord,

jm

By the way if you can inform us of parishes that plan on adopting it I would love to be able to follow the ones that stream on YouTube. Where happily @MarkRohfrietsch ’s church now is, meaning the only church I have to log in to Facebook to view that is of interest is the ultra Anglo Catholic St. Magnus the Martyr in the City of London.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

By the way if you can inform us of parishes that plan on adopting it I would love to be able to follow the ones that stream on YouTube. Where happily @MarkRohfrietsch ’s church now is, meaning the only church I have to log in to Facebook to view that is of interest is the ultra Anglo Catholic St. Magnus the Martyr in the City of London.

There is also St. Mary Magdalene )Anglo Catholic) in Toronto (Healy Willian's Parish): Livestreamed services | Church of St Mary Magdalene (Anglican) and St. Georges Kingston Ontario Broad to high Anglican

 

[The Liturgist]

There is also St. Mary Magdalene )Anglo Catholic) in Toronto (Healy Willian's Parish): Livestreamed services | Church of St Mary Magdalene (Anglican) and St. Georges Kingston Ontario Broad to high Anglican

I am familiar with St. Mary Magdalen owing to the exquisite music of Healey Willan but due to the contemporaryliberal politics that unfortunately characterize that parish (apparently), I generally watch St. Thomas Huron Street on YouTube, which has a really excellent musical program, but I haven’t listened to them lately. However St. George’s in Kingston I was not familiar with so I will have to check them out. Right now I’m viewing a Hierarchical Divine Liturgy that happened at the ROCOR cathedral in San Francisco on Sunday which has very good liturgics.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I am familiar with St. Mary Magdalen owing to the exquisite music of Healey Willan but due to the contemporaryliberal politics that unfortunately characterize that parish (apparently), I generally watch St. Thomas Huron Street on YouTube, which has a really excellent musical program, but I haven’t listened to them lately. However St. George’s in Kingston I was not familiar with so I will have to check them out. Right now I’m viewing a Hierarchical Divine Liturgy that happened at the ROCOR cathedral in San Francisco on Sunday which has very good liturgics.

Here in Canada, even high Church and Anglo-Catholic parishes can be too woke for comfort.

 

[JM]

Here in Canada, even high Church and Anglo-Catholic parishes can be too woke for comfort.

I heard someone on Issues, Etc or Gottesdienst Crowd say liturgy was a liberal thing in the 70s and 80s.

 

[Daniel9v9]

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I heard someone on Issues, Etc or Gottesdienst Crowd say liturgy was a liberal thing in the 70s and 80s.

First of all, these are my thoughts based on experience and third party anecdotes...

To a certain extent, Liturgy may have been associated with "liberalism", but not exclusively. I do believe that "liberal" may have been defined a bit differently.

I know in the 60s there were some Anglican Churches that practiced "closed" communion. These parishes were generally less liturgical and by some called "Low Anglican".

In "Confessional" Lutheranism, I would say things similar, but different at the same time.

Pietism came from a couple different influences; Scandinavian immigrants tended to be pietist (much more legalistic than the German, Slavic, and Alsatian counter-parts. Likewise, Churches that were remote "pioneer" parishes often had to settle for what ever clergy happened to be traveling through for baptisms, weddings, funerals, and even services, and before synods might even call a reformed Pastor to serve their Church. This influence can be seen in some parishes to this day.

Pietist congregations can usually be identified by infrequent communion, an aversion to adult Lutheran beverages, prohibitions to dancing, etc.

Generally, we see pietism present to some degree more in the Midwest and west coast of both Canada and the US; while a higher emphasis to liturgy is often seen in larger cities.

Certainly one can also find more liturgical worship in larger cities among Anglicans as well, but a good example is in my own city; the largest of the three Parishes is very high church; but they are hyper-woke.

Non Confessional Lutherans (most of which are in fellowship with Anglicans and Presbyterians (still scratching my head on that one) are all woke liberals regardless of bells and smells or not. Not all of their members are though.

There can be quite a pietist influence in some of the WELS congregations as well; but again, geography and ethnicity similar to that within the LCMS do come into play as well.

 

[JM]

First of all, these are my thoughts based on experience and third party anecdotes...

To a certain extent, Liturgy may have been associated with "liberalism", but not exclusively. I do believe that "liberal" may have been defined a bit differently.

I know in the 60s there were some Anglican Churches that practiced "closed" communion. These parishes were generally less liturgical and by some called "Low Anglican".

In "Confessional" Lutheranism, I would say things similar, but different at the same time.

Pietism came from a couple different influences; Scandinavian immigrants tended to be pietist (much more legalistic than the German, Slavic, and Alsatian counter-parts. Likewise, Churches that were remote "pioneer" parishes often had to settle for what ever clergy happened to be traveling through for baptisms, weddings, funerals, and even services, and before synods might even call a reformed Pastor to serve their Church. This influence can be seen in some parishes to this day.

Pietist congregations can usually be identified by infrequent communion, an aversion to adult Lutheran beverages, prohibitions to dancing, etc.

Generally, we see pietism present to some degree more in the Midwest and west coast of both Canada and the US; while a higher emphasis to liturgy is often seen in larger cities.

Certainly one can also find more liturgical worship in larger cities among Anglicans as well, but a good example is in my own city; the largest of the three Parishes is very high church; but they are hyper-woke.

Non Confessional Lutherans (most of which are in fellowship with Anglicans and Presbyterians (still scratching my head on that one) are all woke liberals regardless of bells and smells or not. Not all of their members are though.

There can be quite a pietist influence in some of the WELS congregations as well; but again, geography and ethnicity similar to that within the LCMS do come into play as well.

What was your second of all?

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

What was your second of all?

I wanted to clarify, before addressing the issue, that it was my personal opinion, and may not be a definitive answer.

 

[JM]

I wanted to clarify, before addressing the issue, that it was my personal opinion, and may not be a definitive answer.

Got it.