Republicans Reject Motion to Impeach Joe Biden

[KCfromNC]

Who on earth would buy these books?

Die hard GOP supporters. People who need to launder money. Perhaps there's even some overlap.

 

[The Barbarian]

The Biden family set up over 20 shell companies ... that need to be investigated ...

I notice that Comer set up a shell company to funnel money (supposedly "a loan") to a relative. Should that be investigated? Trump set up a shell company to list his failing social media company. Should that be investigated?

 

[The Barbarian]

Sounds like the Russia collusion investigation. How many years did Trump get for that?

His underlings got lots of years for their crimes in colluding with Russia. Trump found it necessary to pardon those closest to him for some reason...

 

[BPPLEE]

His underlings got lots of years for their crimes in colluding with Russia. Trump found it necessary to pardon those closest to him for some reason...

And the answer to my question is zero

 

[The Barbarian]

And the answer to my question is zero

Until they finally got John Gotti, how many years did he get as opposed to his underlings? Same reasons.

 

[BPPLEE]

Until they finally got John Gotti, how many years did he get as opposed to his underlings? Same reasons.

First Trump is Hitler now he’s John Gotti

 

[The Barbarian]

First Trump is Hitler now he’s John Gotti

Hitler, no. For one thing, Trump says he wants Jews to count his money. But Gotti avoided prison for the same reason Trump did for a long time; his underlings wouldn't flip on him. Now they are. And Gotti went down, the same way;

This is why notorious mobster ‘Sammy the Bull’ says he flipped

Salvatore “Sammy the Bull” Gravano describes in a new interview how mob boss John Gotti told him he needed to be the Mafia’s “sacrificial lamb” — just to save himself. &#822…

nypost.com

 

[BPPLEE]

Hitler, no. For one thing, Trump says he wants Jews to count his money. But Gotti avoided prison for the same reason Trump did for a long time; his underlings wouldn't flip on him. Now they are. And Gotti went down, the same way;

This is why notorious mobster ‘Sammy the Bull’ says he flipped

Salvatore “Sammy the Bull” Gravano describes in a new interview how mob boss John Gotti told him he needed to be the Mafia’s “sacrificial lamb” — just to save himself. &#822…

nypost.com

It should be interesting having Trump’s former attorney testify that Trump should be jailed for following the legal advice that he gave him.

 

[The Barbarian]

It should be interesting having Trump’s former attorney testify that Trump should be jailed for following the legal advice that he gave him.

Ironically, the tape shows Trump asking if the hush money should be in cash, and Cohen replies "no, no, no." But that's not legal advice; it's trying to minimize the chances of being caught. It also shows that Trump was in the middle of the plan to pay the hush money that was needed to keep his campaign alive.

And Cohen is certainly not the only Trump underling now cooperating with the law.

 

[BPPLEE]

Ironically, the tape shows Trump asking that the hush money should be in cash, and Cohen replies "no, no, no." But that's not legal advice; it's trying to minimize the chances of being caught. It also shows that Trump was in the middle of the plan to pay the hush money that was needed to keep his campaign alive.

What is illegal about paying someone for a non disclosure agreement?

 

[essentialsaltes]

What is illegal about paying someone for a non disclosure agreement?

Nothing. But if you put it down as paying your lawyer for services rendered, rather than paying a lady of ill repute for an NDA, that's falsifying a business document.

 

[Pommer]

What is illegal about paying someone for a non disclosure agreement?

Nothing (unless the NDA is to cover a crime, which is not the case here); if one uses their own money.
However if one uses donations to one’s Presidential campaign to pay back the person who fronted the payoff, (which is an undisclosed campaign finance violation (crime #1)), then falsifying the records to indicate that the $130,000+ payments were “legal-fees”, (covering-up crime #1), then one opens themselves to the justice system’s ramifications.

 

[The Barbarian]

What is illegal about paying someone for a non disclosure agreement?

Nothing, if it's not for a political campaign.

Trump fudged the records, the theory goes, because he didn’t want the alleged affair with Daniels to become public and harm his then-ongoing presidential campaign. Therefore, the hush-money payments were actually campaign contributions in excess of federal limits and improperly reported. If the DA prevails on this point, the crime becomes a class E felony, the lowest of five felony levels under New York law. While Trump would face a maximum of four years behind bars in this scenario

 

[BPPLEE]

Nothing. But if you put it down as paying your lawyer for services rendered, rather than paying a lady of ill repute for an NDA, that's falsifying a business document.

Which is a misdemeanor for which the statute of limitations had passed Isn’t it?

 

[BPPLEE]

Nothing (unless the NDA is to cover a crime, which is not the case here); if one uses their own money.
However if one uses donations to one’s Presidential campaign to pay back the person who fronted the payoff, (which is an undisclosed campaign finance violation (crime #1)), then falsifying the records to indicate that the $130,000+ payments were “legal-fees”, (covering-up crime #1), then one opens themselves to the justice system’s ramifications.

Trump paid with campaign contributions?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Which is a misdemeanor for which the statute of limitations had passed Isn’t it?

Nope.

Trump charged with 34 felony counts in hush money scheme​

The indictment centers on allegations that Trump falsified internal business records at his private company while trying to cover up an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election by arranging payments that silenced claims potentially harmful to his candidacy. It includes 34 counts of fudging records related to checks Trump sent to his personal lawyer and problem-solver to reimburse him for his role in paying off a [XXX] actor who said she had an extramarital sexual encounter with Trump years earlier.

 

[BPPLEE]

Nope.

Trump charged with 34 felony counts in hush money scheme​

The indictment centers on allegations that Trump falsified internal business records at his private company while trying to cover up an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election by arranging payments that silenced claims potentially harmful to his candidacy. It includes 34 counts of fudging records related to checks Trump sent to his personal lawyer and problem-solver to reimburse him for his role in paying off a [XXX] actor who said she had an extramarital sexual encounter with Trump years earlier.

The camp finance violation makes it a felony.

 

[BPPLEE]

The Trump Trial in Manhattan is an Indictment of the New York Legal System

Below is my column in the New York Post on the start of the Trump trial today in New York. I have long been critical of the case as a clear example of the weaponization of the criminal justice syst…

jonathanturley.org

 

[AlexB23]

Nope.

Trump charged with 34 felony counts in hush money scheme​

The indictment centers on allegations that Trump falsified internal business records at his private company while trying to cover up an effort to illegally influence the 2016 election by arranging payments that silenced claims potentially harmful to his candidacy. It includes 34 counts of fudging records related to checks Trump sent to his personal lawyer and problem-solver to reimburse him for his role in paying off a [XXX] actor who said she had an extramarital sexual encounter with Trump years earlier.

Whew, this trial is gonna heat up pretty soon. I found the official indictment from the Manhattan DA's office, as it is publicly available information. Trump violated Penal Law §175.10 (law available as PDF provided by the New York Courts), for those who like to know which law he broke.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The camp finance violation makes it a felony.

Whether that's so or not, he is not charged with misdemeanors.