Reconciled to God while enemies !

[Brightfame52]

There is no promise in Rom 5:10 to any enemies of God.

False

 

[zoidar]

False

The promise is to the reconciled, the believers, the friends of God. God bless!

 

[Brightfame52]

Many give advantage to faith or mans act of believing in reconciliation, and say one isn't reconciled to God until they believe, they give this advantage over Christ and His Death/Cross, which is adverse to the scripture of truth:

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Eph 2:16

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Col 1:20

20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

2 Cor 5:18

And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by[Cross Implied] Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 25

 

[Brightfame52]

The promise is to the reconciled, the believers, the friends of God. God bless!

It encompasses all who are reconciled to God by His Death. The condition is being reconciled to God by Jesus death. Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

 

[zoidar]

It encompasses all who are reconciled to God by His Death. The condition is being reconciled to God by Jesus death. Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Yes, and that condition apply to those of faith.

 

[Studyman]

It encompasses all who are reconciled to God by His Death. The condition is being reconciled to God by Jesus death. Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we "shall" be saved by his life.

 

[Brightfame52]

Yes, and that condition apply to those of faith.

False, you corrupting the Truth

 

[zoidar]

False, you corrupting the Truth

That's a serious accusation.... You better have some watertight argument to back that up.

 

[Brightfame52]

Another Gospel writer wrote :

In ascribing ones reconciliation to faith, in whole or part, its a slight /affront to the Lord Jesus Christ, and trample upon Him, by making Him a partial saviour. Its also said that faith is the cause of Justification; do not our Salvation and eternal happiness depend on these things , Reconciliation and Justification ? And you ascribe the like to faith ? Tobias Crisp.

What the writer recognizes is to say such is actually making ones faith saviour rather than Christ !

 

[Brightfame52]

Its not possible for those who were reconciled to God while enemies, to go to hell. The reason why is because they being reconciled by His death, SHALL BE Saved by His Life, observe Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now is all the world without exception to be saved by His Life ? The answer is No ! So Christ could not have died for the unreconciled ! 25

 

[zoidar]

Its not possible for those who were reconciled to God while enemies, to go to hell. The reason why is because they being reconciled by His death, SHALL BE Saved by His Life, observe Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now is all the world without exception to be saved by His Life ? The answer is No ! So Christ could not have died for the unreconciled ! 25

All you say is upside down. Christ only died for unreconciled so they could be reconciled.

 

[Brightfame52]

All you say is upside down. Christ only died for unreconciled so they could be reconciled.

You still dont get it.

 

[zoidar]

You still dont get it.

I get it very well. What you teach just lacks Biblical support, that's all.

 

[Brightfame52]

I get it very well. What you teach just lacks Biblical support, that's all.

No you dont

 

[Brightfame52]

Reconciled to God by Jesus Christ !

2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

If we are reconciled to God, let it be clear, its because of God, for all things are of God ! He did it by Jesus Christ ! You know by nature we are at enmity against God with wicked minds as per Col 1:21

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

Our minds naturally are alienated and estranged from God. However God through the Work of Christ for us, grants to us a new mind and heart that reconciles us to Himself. He by Christs gives us a change of mind, repentance, faith. The natural mind that has been estranged is subdued by Gods Grace and Spirit through Jesus Christ, Christ brings us to God , that's the experience of reconciliation. 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 26

 

[zoidar]

Reconciled to God by Jesus Christ !

2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

If we are reconciled to God, let it be clear, its because of God, for all things are of God ! He did it by Jesus Christ ! You know by nature we are at enmity against God with wicked minds as per Col 1:21

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

Our minds naturally are alienated and estranged from God. However God through the Work of Christ for us, grants to us a new mind and heart that reconciles us to Himself. He by Christs gives us a change of mind, repentance, faith. The natural mind that has been estranged is subdued by Gods Grace and Spirit through Jesus Christ, Christ brings us to God , that's the experience of reconciliation. 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 26

Does God give us a new mind first and then repentance? Or is it that God gives us a new mind after repentance. I say the latter. We repent and God gives us a new heart and mind. God bless!

 

[Brightfame52]

Does God give us a new mind first and then repentance? Or is it that God gives us a new mind after repentance. I say the latter. We repent and God gives us a new heart and mind. God bless!

Our minds naturally are alienated and estranged from God. However God through the Work of Christ for us, grants to us a new mind and heart that reconciles us to Himself. He by Christs gives us a change of mind, repentance, faith. The natural mind that has been estranged is subdued by Gods Grace and Spirit through Jesus Christ, Christ brings us to God , that's the experience of reconciliation. 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 26

 

[Brightfame52]

Objective reconciliation makes certain the subjective reconciliation of the elect in time. Reconciliation is a phenomenal truth, but it is greatly unintelligible to most ! Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

 

[Brightfame52]

The Great blessing of objective legal reconciliation is the fact its a legal finished act of God before any of the elect believe. This fact is denied by most today ! 26

 

[Brightfame52]

All for whom Christ by His death hath legally and objectively reconciled to God, even while they are unbelievers, the Blessing of that is because, their sins God will not lay to their charge,2 Cor 5:19 because Christ by His death hath taken them out the way, Col 2:13-14

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;