Old Testament vs, Tanakh

[DLdolphin]

Hi. This is my first post. I was wondering what the difference is between the tanakh, and the old testament. Some of the verses are a little different, and Some of the messianic prophecies differ.
Thankyou,
-Holly

 

[ScottEmerson]

Both are based on the Hebrew text of the books. I think what you're talking about is the actual translations that are different.

 

[DLdolphin]

Well, for example. In Isaiah 7, The Old testament says " Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and and will call him Immanuel" This verse in the Tonakh says the same, but only says "the woman will be with child." It says nothing about her being a virgin.

 

[ScottEmerson]

Originally posted by DLdolphin
Well, for example. In Isaiah 7, The Old testament says " Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and and will call him Immanuel" This verse in the Tonakh says the same, but only says "the woman will be with child." It says nothing about her being a virgin.

That's because of the differences in the Hebrew words betulah and almah. Personally, I think the proper translation is young woman - Matthew used the Septuagint for his gospel, which also used the Greek word for virgin.

 

[DLdolphin]

So the bible never really said anything about The woman being a virgin? It was just translated that way?

 

[LouisBooth]

umm...is that relevant to the discussion 2002?

/me is just wondering

 

[DLdolphin]

why would that not be relevant? I am asking a question. ( I'm not sure if that post was aimed at me, so if it wasnt I apologize)

 

[LouisBooth]

Hmmm, nope not directed to you. Please excuse my comment. Thanks

 

[Didaskomenos]

The Tanak is a Hebrew acronym for the Torah (the Law), the Nebi'im (the Prophets, including what we call the historical books), and the Ketubim (the Writings). That spells "TaNaK," a Hebrew way of referring to the Old Testament. This does not include the deuterocanonical books (the Pseudepigrapha) that the Catholics include in their Old Testament.

 

[filosofer]

While the TNK and the Old Testament of the Christian Bible contain the same material, the material is arranged differently. In the TNK there are 22 books (following the Hebrew), in the English OT there 39 books. The books are also arranged differently. But again, the material is the same.

 

[DLdolphin]

But some of the material is different. Thats what I've been confused about.

     ~Holly

 

[filosofer]

Holly,

Can you give some examples of different material? Then we can discuss.

 

[Shimon]

DLDolphin:

But some of the material is different. Thats what I've been confused about.

There's no difference between the Tanakh and the Old Testament, they are the same thing. Whatever differences you may find are simply differences in translation. It's like saying that the "material is different" between the King James version and the NIV.

The example you gave earlier with regard to the "virgin" in Isaiah 7 occurs because of a difference in translation. Some bible translations use the Septuagint as their source for translation, while others use the Hebrew manuscripts. The Septuagint was a Greek translation of the Hebrew Tanakh. The Septuagint translated it as "woman" rather than "virgin" and therefore any bible translations which derive from that will say "woman" instead of "virgin."

Shimon