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I have gone out on a limb in the claim that there is no Bible statement in OT or NT claiming that hell is divided into three parts, or that Paradise is in hell, or that paradise is the first compartment in hell or any such thing as that. so if I am wrong this should be pretty easy to point out my error.
In the example of the parable in Luke 16 we have prayers to the dead that are of the form of the rich man praying to Ἀβραάμ Abraam
Someone could possibly respond like this
Well I do know the the following;
1. no text in OT or NT says that - only this parable where we have prayers to the dead. And even it does not say "until Jesus ascended into heaven all the saved went to the compartment of hell known as Abrahams Bosom/Paradise"
2. what is more NO TEXT in OT or NT says that another name for Paradise is "Abrham's bosom"
3. There are in fact only 3 uses of the term "paradise" in all of scripture and none say they are abraham's bosom
Now I suppose that someone "might" say in response
As I have said elsewhere
1. Neither Eph 4 nor Hebrews 2 mention "Abraham's bosom"
2. No text says "Abraham's bosom is a prison"
3. No text says "the devil is/was in charge of Abraham's bosom"
4. Some people say good angels carry the dead saints to a place (Abraham's bosom) where the devil is/was in charge of holding them as prisoners. I find that logic "illusive".
5. By contrast in Luke 16 Abraham actually says (emphasized because "places" do not "speak" much less participate in Q&A conversations) that Lazarus had bad things in life - but here with Abraham he has his good reward and is being "comforted" for all the suffering he had while living on Earth -- i.e. good things and not "prison". Not "imprisonment by the devil" or any such thing.
And yet some say "Abraham’s bosom was a prison where the devil kept them against their wills Hebrews 2:14-15; Ephesians 4:7-11."
No wonder so many Bible scholars freely admit that it is a parable!!
The term "Abraham's bosom" is only mentioned one place in scripture - and that is in Luke 16 so no need to search all over NT and OT for texts that don't mention it -- we can already see that.
"paradise" is only found in three texts in all of scripture, Luke 23, 2 Cor 12, Rev 2 -- so here again a very easy subject to research.
In the example of the parable in Luke 16 we have prayers to the dead that are of the form of the rich man praying to Ἀβραάμ Abraam
Someone could possibly respond like this
until Jesus ascended into heaven all the saved went to the compartment of hell known as Abrahams Bosom/Paradise.
Well I do know the the following;
1. no text in OT or NT says that - only this parable where we have prayers to the dead. And even it does not say "until Jesus ascended into heaven all the saved went to the compartment of hell known as Abrahams Bosom/Paradise"
2. what is more NO TEXT in OT or NT says that another name for Paradise is "Abrham's bosom"
3. There are in fact only 3 uses of the term "paradise" in all of scripture and none say they are abraham's bosom
Now I suppose that someone "might" say in response
until Jesus ascended into heaven all the saved went to the compartment of hell known as Abrahams Bosom/Paradise. The other two compartments are called the place of torments and Tartarus.
As I have said elsewhere
if you read the Bible 100 times you will never find that hell has a compartment in it called "Paradise" or that Paradise is one of the compartments in hell, or that Paradise is the first compartment of hell or any such thing as that in scripture.
Now my statement is pretty well a blanket statement covering all of scripture -- so I am making it as easy as could possibly be for someone who actually has such a text to prove that I am mistaken.
1. Neither Eph 4 nor Hebrews 2 mention "Abraham's bosom"
2. No text says "Abraham's bosom is a prison"
3. No text says "the devil is/was in charge of Abraham's bosom"
4. Some people say good angels carry the dead saints to a place (Abraham's bosom) where the devil is/was in charge of holding them as prisoners. I find that logic "illusive".
5. By contrast in Luke 16 Abraham actually says (emphasized because "places" do not "speak" much less participate in Q&A conversations) that Lazarus had bad things in life - but here with Abraham he has his good reward and is being "comforted" for all the suffering he had while living on Earth -- i.e. good things and not "prison". Not "imprisonment by the devil" or any such thing.
And yet some say "Abraham’s bosom was a prison where the devil kept them against their wills Hebrews 2:14-15; Ephesians 4:7-11."
No wonder so many Bible scholars freely admit that it is a parable!!
The term "Abraham's bosom" is only mentioned one place in scripture - and that is in Luke 16 so no need to search all over NT and OT for texts that don't mention it -- we can already see that.
"paradise" is only found in three texts in all of scripture, Luke 23, 2 Cor 12, Rev 2 -- so here again a very easy subject to research.
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