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Correct. The "Buddha" could have been an outer-space alien, as far as I'm concerned. What matters far more is the truth regarding the enlightened Map, rather than beliefs concerning the Mapmaker; or, the effectiveness of medicine over beliefs concerning the Doctor.
Faith is only a starting point; it is not the end-goal.
I practice the Forest Tradition of Theravada Buddhism. I claim that it is more true for myself, in the sense that practice of its Path has proven to be the most effective for me, whereas the Mahayana, and other, paths have not.
That's not quite true. The early Buddhist Path is a graded, progressive Path, open to anyone who desires to follow and verify it. As one proceeds along the Path, one is expected to see more of the destination over time (even if the destination has not been reached yet), just as a man who desires to reach a mountain will eventually begin to see the peaks and slopes of the mountain as he walks towards it over time. By progressing on the Path, I have personally verified for myself that the early Buddhist writings' insights are accurate, as far as I've gone. Thus, I hold a reasonable expectation that the achievement of the final goal of the Path is as claimed.
Probably.
How would historical credibility serve to add to my personal, direct knowledge that life is filled with discontentments and sufferings, or to my personal testing of the suggested solution to that problem? I know those things for myself - I need no external, historical mythology to bolster my own internal, direct experience.
The Buddhist concerns himself with (what we perceive as) the ultimate question in life, regarding discontentment & suffering. The solipsists concerns himself with the idea that only mind is known to be true.
I test one tradition's claims against another through personal, direct experience. It is a Buddhist axiom that everyone must directly experience the truth for themselves; this is the highest and most profound Way which truly and fundamentally changes individual life paths for the better.
Perhaps your real question is this: "How can a religious tradition be proven to others?" - would that be true?
It seems that you have conceded the essential point of the thread which was to do with historical credibility.
I would dispute that the fundamental problem of the real world was pain and discontentment. The basic problem is an alienation from God by sin. We are broken biological creatures inhabiting a broken ecosystem because of our sins and separation from God.
Since the path you describe to enlightenment is not testable in the ways that claims about Jesus have been and is entirely enclosed in the selfs experience of life the universe and everything it all seems highly subjective.
But you are not island who can escape a painful world by painting rosy pictures inside your own head. Ultimately this deadly world will claim you also as it claims us all. Christians see that as a reason to trust in a Saviour who has a proven answer to what comes next having been witnessed to have risen from the dead by those who saw Him and those who have experienced a relationship with Him since then also.
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