Mary - Queen Of Heaven (2)

[Unashamed Jesus Freak]

Honestly i wonder how many assume that this is alright by God without asking Him.

I wonder that myself.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Write all your questions down on a twenty dollar bill & submit it to your local pontificate

I want change back tho

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by k2svpete Please remove your misplaced pagan origin rituals.

Forgive him Lord he does not know what he is saying.
Regina angelorum ora pro nobis!

What makes you so sure?

 

[Rick Otto]

I want change back tho

SEnd another 20 & we'll change the answers no problem.

 

[lionroar0]

oops.

 

[Saint Polycarp]

Forgive me Athanasius for I do not know what you said.

It's Latin:
Queen of Angles, pray for us.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

oops.

Best post yet!


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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Rick Otto

Did God command Dagon hats & robes of crimson & purple silk?
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The veil of the Sanctuary was made out of that
2Ch 3:14
And he made the veil of blue, purple, crimson, and fine linen, and wove cherubim into it.

Rev 18:12
"merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble;

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[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

And protestanism doesn't? You need to buy a clue.

Peace

So by your answers and reasoning - because they do it - it's ok for us too?

Your not the first catholic that has said "well they do it too" as if that makes it any more right....

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

The Queen of Heaven and it's origins

the queen of heaven was:
Astarte the goddess of Venus
called Ishtar by the Assyrians and Babylonians
Ashtoreth by the Phoenicians and other canaanites

the sister or consort to Baal

denounced in the OT as abominable

Jeremiah 7:18 44:17-25

and how was the queen of heaven honored?

Just ask a catholic they know..... Because you can add

to the Catholics she was known as Mary.... The queen of heaven

and how did they honor her? Same way the catholic honor Mary today
cakes are offered drinks are offered and incense is burned


Hail mary queen of heaven.....

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

Would you mind showing me in the Bible where it says Mary isn't in Heaven and that those in Heaven cannot hear prayers?

If this hasn't been done I could show you she sleeps....

For 1 Paul tells us in 2thess 1:7 to wait with them until Jesus is revealed from heaven (see Rev 6:14-17) since Jesus has Not be revealed - Paul still waits with All believers including Mary for Christ to come and recieve his bride....

Mary does not have nor will she ever have a throne in heaven or the earth...

 

[CalebTumanako]

Mary being the Queen of Heaven came from man! God, the Father, the Holy Spirit and the Son they are one and to me, I don't see the need to crown her as the Queen of Heaven. It's man exalting Mary, let God do the exalting! God will exalt all of us in time by raising us from the dead! We don't have to exalt anyone except the Son! I guess it's that simple for me! The gospel isn't confusing, but we like to make it confusing so it's something to attain like the Holy grail! When the opposite is true, God loved us first and in turn sent his Son, the invite and so we accept that invite.

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

I don't say this to be mean but to be accurate...

Here is the single most important verse when it cones to Mary and Her place...

Mary is outside a house where Jesus teaches:

Matt 12:46 while he yet talked His mother (Mary) and his brethren stood w/out (means outside) wanting to speak with Him...

12:47 someone says "your mother wishes to speak with you"

12:48 and Jesus replies " who is my mother? (family)

Those who are disciples (believers) in Christ and do the will of My Father in Heaven
(only a believer can do the Will of God)(only a believer can Have Faith)


Mark 3:31-35 tells us that Mary comes and is without,
Jesus is told Mary is outside and Jesus replys that His mother is ANY Believer in Christ and doing the will of God...


1. I believe this verse was written into the bible just for the catholic people...

Jesus teaches that Mary is No different (when it comes to Christ and doing Gods will)
no where does it say anything as to if she was ever let inside.... Jesus makes it clear it's about believeing in Christ and doing Gods will that make you family to Him...

He also passes Mary off to a disciple let's not forget.... Mary was like John the baptist or Paul or David - they had time to shine for God but in the end they All need salvation from Jesus Christ alone through His blood alone by grace through our faith Alone.

Mary is Not needed for anything to the believer today - but let us not blame Mary for How she has been built into something other than what scripture teaches - I use the KJV only... And there's reasons why...

Also when people say she is the mother of God I ask myself


When Did God have a begining?

 

[sonshine234]

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen

 

[Tzaousios]

The Queen of Heaven and it's origins

the queen of heaven was:
Astarte the goddess of Venus
called Ishtar by the Assyrians and Babylonians
Ashtoreth by the Phoenicians and other canaanites

the sister or consort to Baal

denounced in the OT as abominable

Jeremiah 7:18 44:17-25

and how was the queen of heaven honored?

Just ask a catholic they know..... Because you can add

to the Catholics she was known as Mary.... The queen of heaven

and how did they honor her? Same way the catholic honor Mary today
cakes are offered drinks are offered and incense is burned


Hail mary queen of heaven.....

Sounds like an ignorance bomb to me. Couldn't you come up with something more original?

 

[MamaZ]

Thing is that there is never a mention of a queen of Heaven in the scriptures. Therefore this queen of heaven idea is man made.. Nothing ever spoken about by any scripture. I don't care what some people believed or were taught by tradition or anything.. If it does not line up with the written scriptures then it is not truth..

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

Sounds like an ignorance bomb to me. Couldn't you come up with something more original?

Sorry the truth hurts so much.....



Oh about the name - I wanted tzaousios but you already had it....

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

Thing is that there is never a mention of a queen of Heaven in the scriptures. Therefore this queen of heaven idea is man made.. Nothing ever spoken about by any scripture. I don't care what some people believed or were taught by tradition or anything.. If it does not line up with the written scriptures then it is not truth..

While the name queen of heaven isn't mentioned - the queen is mentioned in Jeremiah 7:18 And 44:17-25....

Simply put the RCC does Mary the same way as the other queens of heaven before her from the pagan world...
Astarte/Ishtar/ashtoreth

1. Make cakes
2. Pour out drink offerings
3. Burn incense to her

they do exactly as Jeremiah 7:18 says....

Those who believe in Mary as the queen - you have to ask yourself


why would the RCC come and take the name for Mary and have you do the exact same thing for Mary.... Those in jeremiahs time found Babylon as punishment.... But now you do the same thing.... Doesn't something make you say - now what a minute....

1. No where does the bible call mary this
2. God condemns this practice for this goddess
3. Only RCC calls her this
4. And they have you do the exact same things for Mary that God says provokes him to anger....

 

[Rick Otto]

Sorry the truth hurts so much.....



Oh about the name - I wanted tzaousios but you already had it....

lol

 

[Tzaousios]

Oh about the name - I wanted tzaousios but you already had it....

Oh? Why did you want the name "tzaousios?"