I would have loved TCMD to explain how he makes the following distinction:
- behaviour A comes with risks, therefore society and the individual needs to take care that these risks are minimized (hetero-sex, driving cars, owning guns etc. etc.)
vs.
- behaviour B comes with risks, therefore it´s inherently a threat to society, depraved, perverted and whatnot, and needs to be prohibited.
Without clear rational criteria for this distinction all his arguments do not support a certain risky behaviour to be B.
It´s obvious that "homosexuality is B" is TCMD´s premise, not his conclusion.
Then , you kind of missed the whole point of the Debate and why I wanted to expose Male Homosexuality highlighting the concrete objective medical consequences (which all my Opponent could do is flat out deny, try to minimize, and interject extraneous excuses in a lame attempt to demean the hard medical facts of Homosexual acts) .
Re: Your scenario : The Debate wasn't about the truth that there is a measure of risk involved in many common daily tasks that we undergo such as driving a car , stepping into an airplane, grocery shopping, or working under our automobiles ; there is risk and chance we take in simply living out our Lives normally, and by faith, we do them (perhaps) understanding the risk to us albeit very rare . We greatly, if not totally, eliminate such risk on the majority of daily routines if we implement the prescribed absolute moral laws , high ethics, Godly principles, Godly wisdom, given by our Creator which is for the expressed purpose of providing Us with a maximized /fulfilling/ reasonably safe / , kind of existence ; based on our willful obedience to our Creator (viz.God) we can avoid a huge amount of grief in our independent lives as well as civility and harmony resulting for an entire Nation. That is what I see relating to your Scenario 'A' .
Scenario 'B' I see relating to willful disobedience to Gods prescribed moral laws and ethics , etc....and void of Godly wisdom , Godly discernment, Godly actions , and most of all...Godly authority over our lives ; instead, its THE PERSON who desires and excercises HIS/HER own authority based on urges, feelings, desires, whims , and even addictive neurosis' acted out (i.e. Homosexuality) toward Lifestyle Choices involving our sexual nature in particular whereby it is used haphazardly, with perversion, in a deviant manner, etc... In the debate, I clearly listed the common medical consequences from specific most popularly performed Male Homosexual acts --- yet the consequences don't seem to add caution to the Addict . Of course, this is one of the repercussions from an intense addiction to something that is absolutely very wrong....Humans try to justify the continuing addiction , will round up many people in support which lends 'justification' to doing it repeatedly in the Mind , and when we have even the President of a Large country cheering it all on at every turn.... it has a desensitized effect on the general Populace which springboards apathy at great sustaining levels.
Concluding, we can get a very good idea as to what is objectively wrong behavior thru a few true and time tested ways , which can serve as our criteria (so long as its not willfully vetoed) :
a. Most of all, does the behavior line up with absolute truth which is the very absolute nature , character, and Person of our Creator. Absolute truth is defined as : Fidelity to the Original . The Original is always the Creator of the Universe...OUR Creator. Does the behavior violate his infinite purity, holiness, morality, sacredness, and intentional design ?
b. Does it line up with our God given Moral Conscience ,,,, the inherent knowing that some things are really objectively wrong while some are correct. This requires of the Person , to NOT suppress the Moral Conscience to get what he desires (which is the catalyst by the way for all moral degradation in America today) . In short, we have to be WILLING and WANTING to live according to it (hence God) , and it has to trump temporary fixes thru perverted wrong behavior should we desire that.
c. Do we see a cause and effect taking place from the specific behavioral outcome ? If we keep doing 'a cause' .... and it responds in a bad effect....it should cause us to stop and evaluate what keeps on occurring to Us so we can make changes . The wrong thing to do , is to keep on doing it regardless. That is a symptom of a reprobate Mind which doesn't learn, nor cares to because the pleasure received trumps the fallout which is occurring (whether known or unknown presently , to the Individual) .
d. What does the unbiased scientific evidence have to say on the fallout from any specific behavior ? What do the Polls indicate from people involved in a specific Lifestyle have to say on the fallout from it ? When we consider the '78/2' statistic which is 78% of ALL fatal AIDS is coming from just 2% Population in America (the Male Homosexual)... we should be able to process this as being an extremely dangerous Lifestyle , and when we dig deeper into WHY it is so thru the most popular sex acts involved , then it should allow us to conclude its best to stay far away from it. That's what reasonable , caring, smart People do...but opposite People who don't care continue to blindly go forward suffering the consequences .
e. Does the behavior result in something that could be identified as objective perversion to how something (our Human Anatomy) was originally designed for ? In the case of Male Homosexual popular acts, does the result of Gay Bowel Syndrome where the Person needs a Butt Plug or is forced to wear an adult diaper , daily, to prevent the outward flow of disease and smelly feces because the muscles in his rectum have been stretched and distorted , sound like something that could be considered 'objectively perverted '? I would certainly think so.
I submit that the above 5 criteria is whats required to acquire an accurate conclusion on a Lifestyle , an act, or behavior. It would be great if the general Populus would use this kind of objective rationale (nearly all divine by nature) ...but alas... this is something that the majority of People find an offense to their pride and ego because they think they know better.
I believe that succinctly answers your questions . I shall not be continuing this dialogue , as I have another Formal Debate in which I must prepare . But thanks for your question . , and I trust that you will choose to move closer in Gods direction which will also mean, counter-culture (and for good reasons) End.