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Ok so lets just say these ideas underpin policies within our institutions. Now you say we can identify abuse by these 3 beliefs. Yet they don't seem to be able to identify these ideological beliefs behind ideas like equity and reverse descrimination as cultivating abuse. They actually believe they are the opposite and will make for a equal society and prevent abuse and violence.
How can your tripod of beliefs identify abuse here. It seems to have limits. It cannot identify abusive beliefs if the people using the measure don't think their beliefs are abusive. Or they believe natural beliefs are abusive the other way around. Its all subjective.
So you don't think women are being disadvantaged and even attacked for standing up for womens rights in their matters. Its certainly not a Red Herring and is directly related to the heart of this matter. In determining equality between people and broups which seems to be the foundation for abuse and violence.
Just like a male may believe they have a right to deny womens rights is leads to abuse so do the new idea of allowing certain groups to deny other groups their rights.
Why don't women then. You seem to be too quick to case a negative reason on men. Always some self serving alterior motive. If pay is a big factor. It seems you make up reasons for men but don't apply them to women.
I think theres been a lot of teachers resigning and theres been a bad rap on the industry especially with the disicipline problem in schoold where teachers are being stressed out and attacked. Ironically its males which we need to help sort out the behaviour problem especially with boys.
Numerous studies have noted that the major motivating factor for males choosing teaching is, like their female colleagues, a desire to work with children and make a difference in their lives
Yes it does exclude men. If theres morte men then we have to get more women. If theres less men then this is not the case. We don't have a policy to choose men over women and if we did there would be outrage by the Woke brigade lol. The idea is that males especially white males cannot be disadvantaged as they are the oppressors.
No merit comes without any cultural package of race or gender full stop. It shouldn't matter full stop. The idea is to get the best for the job to be able to do ther best overall job.
For example males are naturally better and suited at heavy coinstruction. So they will dominate the candidates as best qualified all things being equal. Males naturally doi well at STEM so they will at least have the majority of best qualified. But if we make STEM 50/50 we will be denying some better males of that position for the sake of DEI. Its unreal to say we can get a 50/50 mix and the best candidates at the same time. It doesn't work that way.
The Unis had this policy under affirmative action which put many minorities into uncomfortable positions where they could not keep up with the course work and either dropped out ofr failed. We have to lower the standards to accommodate this and its happening across many industries.
But that wasn't a problem before. They were doing relatively well remember as they were ahead of girls and they probably had those attitudes more in the past than today. No its something else. They study environment has changed and its not suiting boys. Having majority of women teachers doesn't help but that is a result of a feminised system by the fact there are majority females.
But I just linked several articles some from actual mens groups, from the males experience who support what I am saying. ie
“The way teachers teach, what happens in the classroom in terms of pedagogy – and that's the style of teaching, the way lessons are structured – is more suitable for girls. And all research is proving that.
Lessons and exams, with an emphasis on coursework, were now more suited to girls and were seriously disadvantaging boys. The school system does not value enough of the traditional male things like competition.
Christina Hoff Sommers was absolutely accurate in describing, in her 2000 bestseller, The War Against Boys, how feminist complaints that girls were “losing their voice” in a male-oriented classroom have prompted the educational establishment to turn the schools upside down to make them more girl-friendly, to the detriment of males. As a result, boys have become increasingly disengaged.
The thing is if you cannot know what men think and experience then even your investigation will be biased by the fact you will focus on certain issues you think are releeevant and important and as I have seen so far you often come down on deminishing male disadvantage and reality by your language.
Therefore how can I trust that you can fully appreciate males uniqqque experiences which allow them to percieve things that women (you) are not so readily aware of. If your not aware of them in the first place then you don't know what to look for. Just applying the same logic.
First you are reverting back to your personal experiences. Have you spoken to every man in Australia. Or are you using your small sample to represent all men.
The actually evidence comes from men in real life captured in surveys and studies and as I linked the evidence shows many males feel disenfranchise from their identity and role within society. I gave you this evdience already. Like with the high suicide and mental illness.
Thats a sign of something seriously wrong with males as a whole. Much of this traces back to self worth and identity. If society keep saying men are toxic which we all know has been the narrative in recent years then its going to rub off.
But I am not going to base the truth on your husband. I mean he;s your husband and theres a conflict of interest to start let along whether he is unbias or maybe has a similar ideological outlook to you. We need a wide and vasy survey and other data to determine the truth.
But we can see bits of the symptoms that males are not doing well by the data, high suicide rates, mental illness, imprisonment, high fatherlessness which affects boys more, high addiction and homeless rates, high incidence of violence whether assualt, gang related or family violence, high rates of school drop outs, rapidly decreasing rates of education and now deminishing work markets. Not to mention the many family breakdowns where males usually lose everything including their kids.
Surely that in itself are symptoms like symptoms of a disease that reveals a big underlying problem thats getting worse for males. I cannot see how your husband cannot see this. This is the reality and its reflected in the data and real lived experience.
I started to turn off this article about half way through. A women citing a women about men. I would have thought it better to ask a male about males. Anyway when she started to make out that males feeling more down about losing their job and being supported by their wife and then comparing this to how women don't get as down to make out males should be more like females on this. Like theres no underlying reason why males may be more affected by losing their work and becoming dependent on women.
Why So Many Men Feel Inadequate
I once asked the following question on social media: “Is the word ‘loser’ used to refer to men only?" Respondents were unanimous.www.psychologytoday.com
I think this is probably a pretty good account.
The evidence shows that males place more importance of work, occupation and are more competitive in this regard than women. Thats because this is their natural state. They are not like women and should not be boxed in to behave and react like women. This stems from the ideology that males and females are exactly the same and should feel and behave the same about everything.
I agree that there is an element of unhealthy behaviour when males put down other males for not working and being a man. But the basic driver of why males do this comes from a natural place. There is an innate inclination for males to be more in tuned with working, with occuptaion for providing for their family and contributing to society. So we should expect they feel more upset and down when they are not working and contributing.
In fact the evidence shows that when men are working and when they are earning more than women marriages and relationships are more healthy and last longer. It seems this balance works best for making a strong relationship and both happier.
Roughly seven-in-ten adults (71%) say it is very important for a man to be able to support a family financially to be a good husband or partner. Men are especially likely to place a greater emphasis on their role as financial providers.
Americans see men as the financial providers, even as women’s contributions grow
The most commonly reported finding from sex difference studies is that males place more emphasis on social connections that provide instrumental support, whereas females tend to seek more emotional support
Across prime working-age groups, men tend to experience higher motivation and commitment in the workplace than women. Researchers conclude that gender differences in motivation and commitment persist across age, managerial level, and tenure. Men have an edge across all the variables that researchers studied.
Overall, Men are more motivated and committed than Women at work, but the motivations of both genders drop after 8 years of activity!
The type of work done within industries and gender make a big difference in Employee Engagement. Employee motivation and commitment trends vary widely by industry but there is an interesting story that goes beyond industry differences.
Men need to work more than women. Here's why.
When a man doesn't have a job, almost everything is bad: mental health, physical health, relationships with friends, relationships with spouse, and relationships with children. If a woman drops out of the workforce, she feels not great but not awful. If a man drops out, he basically is functioning at under 20 percent levels on all major life aspects.
Men need to work more than women. Here's why.
Back in February, I wrote a post about how men were actually working from home and taking care of kids more than women in some contexts. I'm always dubious of these studies because, while I want to believe them, I also think the male attitude about work -- and what to derive from it -- is very diffe
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