Evoultion + Bible?

[Jon]

Some People seem to belive the Bible is correct and Evoultion.

Can someone please tell me how this works??????

 

 

 

[wblastyn]

We believe Genesis is like a parable, telling us a story that the people of the day could understand, but it wasn't a literal historical event, in order to convey a heavenly message - that God created everything and it was good, man has fallen into sin and is in need of a redeemer.

Genesis tells us that God created, but doesn't tell us how.  Science tells us how - by evolution

 

[Jon]

Genesis tells us that God created, but doesn't tell us how. Science tells us how - by evolution

The Bible says the God Created the Earth in six days.
We built our house in about 3 months, the foundation first, then the walls and last the roof. I didn't tell you how I built the house but I didn't tell you how because it dosn't really mater...All that realy maters is that you know the I built the house.
Evoultion is still a theory, most people belive in evoultion but that dosn't make it right. There is alot of evidence for evoultion because everyone is looking for it, no one is looking for evidence for creation(in comparision to the number looking for evidence for creation.
When there is a pariable in the Bible it says that there is a pariable, correct?

thanks for posting!

 

[wblastyn]

The Bible says the God Created the Earth in six days.

Yes, it's 6 days within the story.

Evoultion is still a theory, most people belive in evoultion but that dosn't make it right. There is alot of evidence for evoultion because everyone is looking for it, no one is looking for evidence for creation(in comparision to the number looking for evidence for creation.
When there is a pariable in the Bible it says that there is a pariable, correct?

Evolution is both a fact and a theory: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Before evolution came along all scientists really had was creationism, based on a literal interpretation of Genesis, which had already been falsified by geology, so in a way evolution was good for Christianity. People have looked for evidence of creationism - 6000 year old earth, life forimg in 6 days, global flood, etc and it just isn't there, it doesn't exist. Science has shon the earth is billions of years old, life evolved over millions fo years, there never was a worldwide flood, etc. Scientists are looking for evidence of evolution and they are finding it, and have been able to make predictions which assumes evolution is true and they have been shown true as well.

So either God's creation is right and your interpretation is wrong, or your interpretation is right and God's creation is wrong and God has been lying to us by planting false evidence.

When there is a pariable in the Bible it says that there is a pariable, correct?

Revelation doesn't say it's symbolic, yet do you believe a multi-horned monster is going to come from the sea and trick people into following him?

 

[Ray Cho]

Jon,

If you start to look into the issue of how Christians reconcile the Bible with the scientific evidence for evolution, you will find many different viewpoints.  Some Christians, like wblastyn, believe that God meant for Genesis to be read as a parable instead of as history.  Some other Christians, however, believe that if you go back to the original Hebrew text of the Bible, there are other ways of interpreting certain words (like yom, the Hebrew word for "day") that suggest that the earth is as old as many scientists say.  The original Hebrew authors of the Bible were inspired by God -- but the English translators of the King James Version (and other versions) were not necessarily inspired by God.  It is possible that some of the English words they chose to use may not have had the exact same meaning as God intended in the original language.

This is a very complicated subject, but I am glad you are taking the time to look into it.  Christians have many different views on this matter.  Obviously, many Christians believe that evolution is false and that the earth was created in six 24-hour days.  Many other Christians fully accept the scientific evidence for evolution and find no conflict with the Bible.  Unfortunately, some people who have been told that they can't believe in the Bible and evolution at the same time are no longer Christians -- they found the scientific evidence for evolution overwhelming, but didn't even consider the possibility that the Bible might not conflict with evolution at all. 

I will not tell you what you should believe about evolution or what the Bible says about evolution.  I will only say that if it really matters to you, you need to carefully research all sides of the issue (not "both" sides, because they are far more than just two sides), and keep an open scientific mind at all times.  Your faith in God should not rise or fall on your view of evolution.  God is our Creator, and Christ died for our sins -- that's all that really matters.

 

 

[Micaiah]

Yesterday at 11:49 PM Jon said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=707946#post707946)

Some People seem to belive the Bible is correct and Evoultion.

Can someone please tell me how this works??????

 

 

A simple question is entitled to a simple answer. It doesn't work.

The inconsistencies have been highlighted many times on other threads which I will direct you to if you require. Scripture plainly teaches what you assert ie. God made the universe in six days. God made the animals after their kind, they did not evolve. From genealogies we recognise creation took place about 6000 years ago. The authors of Scripture and Christ accepted the historical accuracy of Genesis. Theistic evolution is not Scriptural, but is an attempt to make Christianity respectable in the world's eyes. As Paul said, God has chosen the foolish things...

 

[Andrew]

Some People seem to belive the Bible is correct and Evoultion.

that's becos they are trying to serve 2 masters -- worldly science and God. Therefore, they are forced to modify the meaning of the Bible to fit evolution. It cant happen the other way round for them becos they are afraid of being ridiculed by their peers.

Instead starting from the Bible and moving out to interpret the evidence from a Biblical perspective, they start from outside the Bible and move into the Bible to tell God what he actually meant. The former is called faith, by which we live and by which the worlds were created.

 

[panterapat]

However the world was created and Man came into being-
GOD DID IT!

 

[Micaiah]

Today at 05:07 PM Andrew said this in Post #8 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=710038#post710038)



that's becos they are trying to serve 2 masters -- worldly science and God. Therefore, they are forced to modify the meaning of the Bible to fit evolution. It cant happen the other way round for them becos they are afraid of being ridiculed by their peers.

Instead starting from the Bible and moving out to interpret the evidence from a Biblical perspective, they start from outside the Bible and move into the Bible to tell God what he actually meant. The former is called faith, by which we live and by which the worlds were created.

Precisely. In the end it is a question of trust and loyalty.

 

[wblastyn]

that's becos they are trying to serve 2 masters -- worldly science and God. Therefore, they are forced to modify the meaning of the Bible to fit evolution. It cant happen the other way round for them becos they are afraid of being ridiculed by their peers.

How is being interested in science "serving" it? If people did not "serve" science, as you put it, you would not be using a computer. It amazes me how someoen can be so hypocritical.

We "modify" the interpretatoin of scripture to fit with God's creation.

 

[Jon]

If the earth is millions of years old and we are evolving then that would mean that we will eventualy be like God.......Not Biblical.
If the earth is millinos of years old and God Just Created us then there would be more people, right?

 

[Bruno]

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day."
(2 Peter 3:8)

 

[Jon]

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day."
(2 Peter 3:8)

What side are you saying this for?;
For Evoultionist;
1 day is the same as 1000 days so God created the Earth in 6000days

OR
For Creationist;
One of Gods days is the same as a thousand days making it possible for God to Create the Earth is six days(Because God is NOT stuck in time).

 

[panterapat]

God is the creator of ALL. He created the laws of physics and nature. If science truly unlocks all the mysteries of life- science will find God. There is no conlfict between God and science.

 

[Jon]

There is no conlfict between God and science.

I Agree.........
However there seems to be conflicts between God and some theories..

 

[wblastyn]

If the earth is millions of years old and we are evolving then that would mean that we will eventualy be like God.......Not Biblical.

No, evolving doesn't mean you get "better", it's more to do with being better adapted to your surroundings, so unless being God is required to survive in our environment then no. I don't even think it would be possible to evolve into the supernatural.

CS Lewis talks about evolution in Mere Christianity, he says that everyone is wondering what the new stage of evolution will be, and that he believes Christians already know - when we receive our glorified bodies when Christ returns.

I Agree.........
However there seems to be conflicts between God and some theories..

Or your interpretation of God's Word and "some theories".

 

[Jon]

Or your interpretation of God's Word and "some theories".

Ok, put it that way then....

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Today at 02:15 PM Jon said this in Post #12

If the earth is millions of years old and we are evolving then that would mean that we will eventualy be like God.......Not Biblical.
If the earth is millinos of years old and God Just Created us then there would be more people, right?

We could never evolve into God.

 

[Jon]

and that he believes Christians already know - when we receive our glorified bodies when Christ returns.

Wouldn't that be saying the WE evoulved into glorified bodies. Isn't it more like God gave us glorified bodies?????

 

[Micaiah]

The same thing happened with geocentrism. The OT says in plain Hebrew in several places that the earth does not move. This led Christians to embrace Ptolemaic astronomy and an earth-centered solar system. When Galileo, Newton, and Kepler showed that it was impossible for the earth to be the center of the solar system, the interpretation of the passages was altered.

Care to quote the passages in question. I think it may be more accurate to say that some Christians forced an interpretation on Scripture to support one of their pet scientific theories. I see the same thing being done by evolutionists (TEV's).