Integrity: 2024

rambot said:

This thread is to monitor which parties are to undermine confidence in elections and, just as importantly,create potential problems post election.

A crush of lawsuits over voting in multiple states is creating a shadow war for the 2024 election

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So, what do you want us to post here? It is Trump that is undermining the elections and twisting the system for his own gain, more so compared to any other individual right now.

Here is Trump trying to say that the trial is a sham: Trump trial: Prosecution say hush money was 'pure election fraud'

rambot said:

What was clear before the last election was that Republicans kept trying to making voting harder for people under the guise of "election integrity" (nvm the lack of integrity).

I thought i'd be swell to monitor what both parties are doing in that regard. I mean, we should be fair, right?

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Yes, we should monitor both sides. As of now, there is no way of checking if a voter is a citizen or not, in the state of WI.

Some people want undocumented immigrants to have voting rights, which would pose a risk to our country. I am all for immigration, as long as the immigrants are productive members of our society and pay taxes, but these people should not be able to vote, until becoming US citizens. This PBS article discusses the issues with immigrants voting: How often do non-US citizens vote in Wisconsin elections?

Fair usage from PBS article

Using the Courts to gain the “most-favorable“ electoral-landscape for one’s side is shortsighted; unless once one’s side comes to power they change it so their side always has an advantage, then there will be words.

[9-Feb-2024] Mail-In Ballot Fraud Study Finds Trump ‘Almost Certainly’ Won in 2020 | The Epoch Times

If the mail-in ballot scam is shut off, then there are other ways. Another way to scam is the recount scam. You know, when elections are close then often recounts are triggered. Except they always seem to discover new ballots that missed the first round. Naturally, those newly discovered ballots must be counted for the first time in any recount.

This is more looking backwards, but a relevant thread:

3 more Republican states (FL, MO, WV) announce they're leaving a key voting data sharing partnership (+OH.IA.AL.LA.VA)​

Not so much about undermining confidence as actually undermining the accuracy of voter rolls.

rambot said:

I mean, we should be fair, right?

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I think trying to be fair instead of honest

is the problem with most everyone.

rambot said:

I don't know. I don't think those two are mutually exclusive. I think part of hte problem with that comment is that there are definitely people working HARD to obfuscate.

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They do not even have to work hard at it. It is their job, it is natural for mankind to do that, and they make a very lot of money and popularity doing that.

rambot said:

Here's another one....and a great way to disenfranchise whole groups at the last minute!

Looks like all these warnings about Far Right groups wanting to get rid of Democracy (far right/Republicans in this instance) are very clear.

Far-Right Group Recruits Followers To Overwhelm Election Offices With Voter Roll Challenges

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Apparently democracy works better if one “jiggles-the-handle” a lot.

rambot said:

there are definitely people working HARD to obfuscate.

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If you keep lifting weights and doing curls I think it will all work out in the end.

rambot said:

This thread is to monitor which parties are to undermine confidence in elections and, just as importantly,create potential problems post election.

A crush of lawsuits over voting in multiple states is creating a shadow war for the 2024 election

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When a nation is trying to determine who are the rightful leaders of the government, through its courts, it can be a sign that the endgame has begun.